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  • The New York Times has a LOOOONG history of shitty opinions and tone-deaf to just downright bad takes. Here’s a fun greatest hits:

    🧨 1. Downplaying the Holocaust (1930s–40s)

    The NYT repeatedly buried reports of the Holocaust, often placing them on page 10 or later. They downplayed the genocide of Jews during WWII to avoid appearing “too Jewish” in an era of antisemitism. Public awareness suffered greatly as a result.

    Bad take: Treating the genocide of 6 million people like a footnote.


    🛢️ 2. Cheerleading the Iraq War (2002–03)

    Judith Miller and others ran uncritical coverage of “WMDs” in Iraq, helping sell a war that was based on lies. The editorial board later admitted it failed to challenge the Bush administration’s narrative.

    Bad take: “Let’s trust the government that wants a war.”


    👮‍♂️ 3. Central Park Five – Trial by Media, Fueled by Racism (1989–2002)

    When five Black and brown teens were arrested in the 1989 Central Park jogger case, The New York Times joined the rest of the media in framing them as guilty from the start—using dehumanizing language, ignoring holes in the prosecution’s case, and failing to question the racist hysteria. They weren’t alone, but they were the paper of record.

    To make things worse, Donald Trump took out full-page ads in four NYC papers, including the Times, calling for the reinstatement of the death penalty. The ads appeared in May 1989—before the teens even stood trial. The paper printed it without criticism or context, amplifying a call for state-sanctioned murder of children.

    The teens spent years in prison before DNA evidence and a confession from the actual perpetrator cleared them in 2002. The Times acknowledged the wrongful convictions after the fact, but never meaningfully reckoned with its role in legitimizing a racist rush to judgment.

    Bad take: Amplifying racist fear, ignoring the facts, and publishing a death penalty ad against kids who hadn’t been convicted.


    ☁️ 4. Tom Cotton’s “Send in the Troops” Op-Ed (2020)

    The NYT published a now-infamous op-ed by Sen. Tom Cotton calling for military force against BLM protesters. It was so bad that staff revolted, and the opinion editor resigned. Turns out fascist takes don’t go over well in a newsroom.

    Bad take: “Let’s solve civil unrest with military occupation.”


    🧬 5. Ongoing Anti-Trans Bias (2020s)

    The NYT has been called out by GLAAD, hundreds of contributors, and its own readers for publishing anti-trans talking points as neutral reporting. Critics say they platform bigotry under the guise of debate while ignoring actual trans voices.

    Bad take: “Both sides” journalism on human rights.


    🥄 6. Tone-Deaf Sympathy for the 1%

    The Times loves publishing bizarre op-eds about the struggles of the ultra-rich. Like the infamous:

    Bad take: “Won’t someone think of the wealthy?”


    🗞️ BONUS: Soft-Pedaling Hitler (1930s)

    Like many US papers, the Times downplayed the early threat of Adolf Hitler, painting him as a quirky or “moderate” leader. Their early coverage normalized fascism at a dangerous time.

    Bad take: “He’s not so bad if you ignore the fascism.”








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    3 months ago

    The Black Panther Party were cool, but the PSL is a bad example, imo. They’ve had… issues. Really icky issues that kind of mar the whole organization. I did meet some cool former PSLers back in my DSA-LSC days, though.

    I think it’s personally a stretch to call Xin Jinping a Marxist, even if that’s how he identifies. It kind of seems like China’s just doing a capitalism, but with more steps. I don’t know enough about Vietnam and Cuba, but it’s my understanding that Vietnam has been slowly moving in the same state capitalist direction that China did


  • All of the examples I listed should meet your definition of success, right?

    You said:

    The nature of society has not fundamentally changed in a century, so there’s no reason to think that methods of organization need to drastically change as well.

    I said:

    You don’t actually believe that basically nothing has changed since before the industrial revolution, do you? That seems intentionally obtuse.

    How is that a straw man? It’s literally what you said.



  • To date, nobody has shown a more effective approach to organizing that I’m aware of.

    Makhnovshchina, CNT, Rojava, Zapatistas…

    Is your definition of success the establishment of a socialist state? Because anarchists are never going to do that.

    The nature of society has not fundamentally changed in a century

    You don’t actually believe that basically nothing has changed since before the industrial revolution, do you? That seems intentionally obtuse.


  • You’re not an anti-anarchist, and I’m not an anti-Marxist. Isn’t that just enough? Spending all of your time planning for what the potential future socioeconomic system might look like isn’t something that really scratches any itch that I have anymore. I’m far more concerned with what can be done right now.



  • I guess if I can point to anything in this dynamic it’s that there isn’t really a huge difference in how effective the different groups are at accomplishing their short term goals, so IMO it would just make more sense to figure out which ideological line is most attractive to the people it’s supposed to serve in a given area and stick to that.

    I 100% agree