Sorry guys, this one’s locked now. Y’all need to grow the fuck up.
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Ironically, this comment supports Rogan’s point. Shaming people for using a particular word is pointless, because the word is just a word. The insult is being called mentally handicapped, regardless of the actual word used. The argument against using the word was to remove the stigma against people with mental disabilities - but people will just come up with a new word. If you are insulting Rogan by insinuating that it is bad to be mentally handicapped, then you are perpetuating that stigma regardless of the particular word.
Woah, you just blew my retarded mind
What a mong.
Fun fact! ‘Mong’ is an abbreviation of ‘mongoloid’, a term used as a slur for people with Down’s Syndrome. The fun part is that the reason for the term being used is quite clever! Those with Down’s Syndrome have a usually noticeable difference in their facial structure, with a wide, flatter face and smaller eyes. Features that are rarely found elsewhere, first discovered in natives of the country Mongolia!
damn I wonder which white guy discovered those features in the Mongol population, crazy that they all missed them
De platform this asshole already.
Joe Rogan identifies as a South Park character: offensive and two-dimensional
Can all newspapers, when writing about Rogan, now use the term “Noted r-word, Joe Rogan…”
I hate this guy almost as much as Asmond Gold. Who I fear is much more insidious going after young impressionable “gamers”
Asmond Gold sounds like the cheapest pack of cigarettes.
He is
I’d say he’s more like a dirty sandwich bag of loosely rolled trash tobacco found in a parking garage that you cannot be certain are free of rat turds…
Calling him a “pack” of cigarettes implies there is any level of organized thought or professionalism put in to it…
But I gotta give him some grace. He’s just trying to fill his “dad hole”
I swear, the videos this guy makes are some elevated art form we don’t even have a name for yet.
toe rogain just using the slur that describes himself perfectly
it’s what the ® stands for, ain’t it?
Joe Rogan is retarded and so are people who call it “the r-word”
I don’t know where we got this idea that “retarded” was as vile and pernicious as The Hard R, to the point people don’t want to repeat it. Nobody with intellectual disabilities I’ve heard from has such a visceral reaction to it, anecdotal as that is. The outrage seems completely invented and it gained a momentum of its own.
“Idiot” was also a medical term for cognitive disability, should that go away too?
99% of the time I hear it used, it’s interchangeable with “stupid” or “idiot” and not derogatory towards literal disability.
I have autism and the word is deeply offensive to me. For all of my young life, it was used as a cudgel to single me out and beat me into social submission. It was used to remind me of my place in the social hierarchy (lower than non-retards, obviously) and as a reason for excluding me or treating me differently from everyone else. It’s just as anecdotal as anything else, but I have many neurodivergent friends and family members with similar histories with the word.
Not seeing the problem with something does not mean there isn’t a problem. In this case, it just means that the problem is not particularly relevant to your own life.
And I don’t know why “idiot” doesn’t have the same sting or modern context around it, but despite its historical use, it simply doesn’t hit the same. I guess it could be that it’s not used so explicitly to identify neurodivegence, so much as it is a way of saying someone didn’t/doesn’t think things through, whereas using “retard” is more like insulting someone’s genetic pull. One label can be unlearned, while the other is a life-sentence. Once retarded; forever a retard.
If the n-word was used to describe people acting stupid would you feel comfortable with that? What if no black people complained about it? Would that make it okay? The degree of severity is clearly different because of the historical context, but it is basically the same thing for a different community. A community that, oftentimes, has far less ability to advocate for themselves and far less ability to mobilize en masse. It’s a word that inherently punches down, and using it does shape the perception of our community as well as just hurt our feelings because we are people that can feel and understand when we are being treated differently.
My b for that rant. It’s just fucked up that people act like getting punched in the kidney doesn’t hurt just because they’ve never been punched in the kidney before. That’s not how it works, and if there was a specific word for denigrating you (“you” as in whoever is reading this tbc) I’m sure many people like you would not like being reminded of what negative bullshit the world at large assumes about them based on something they had no control over. Shit fucking sucks, fullstop.
The r word is definitely not used exclusively to identify neurodivergent or disabled people.
If the n-word was used to describe people acting stupid would you feel comfortable with that? What if no black people complained about it? Would that make it okay?
it depends on how far back you go with this one, if you were to remove the racial pretense from it entirely yeah it would probably be fine.
But if you just sort of retconned it in like 1970 through timetravel or something, i mean it would also be fine because nobody would know what it previously was, but hypothetically that wouldn’t be ok, because it’s historical roots are the same.
Its the history and usage of the word that matters. Given enough time, the n word will probably lose it’s vile status and become more casual. Like every other word before it.
The only people I have ever seen get upset about it are non-retards telling me I should be offended by the word. Fuck them retards and keep using the word retarded all you want.
They may not be actually retarded but them telling me what I should get upset about is actually retarded. You feel me?
“Idiot” was also a medical term for cognitive disability, should that go away too?
Sadly, there are people who 100% believe that the word ‘idiot’ should be considered a slur.
Those people might be a little retarded
Only a little?
You can’t say retard anymore. You have to say autistic. Somehow that’s okay now.
Autistic isn’t really a general purpose slur tho. It’s not even really an slur. That shit is specialized use only.
Using autistic as an insult, the same way Joe Rogan wants to use the aforementioned slur, is absolutely not okay.
I mean, using it as an uninformed general insult is absolutely bigotry, but 99% of the time when I hear it used as a pejorative against specific behavior, it’s always used for behavior that is… well… kinda’ autistic by definition. Like the behavior would be cited by a psych as evidence for being autistic.
Does that make it OK to use for every concerning behavior? Certainly not. Though in my experience it’s used more as a direct clue that someone is behaving very abnormally and may want to introspect.
… Though that said, I don’t hang out with teenagers or immature twats, so maybe they’re slinging it around like 2000’s teenagers slung around “gay” as an insult…
I see the humor and the word being used as such on videos all over with the comments being positive. It’s not what I do, it’s what I see.
And MAGA as a whole are retarded.
The biggest retards of all
Very bigly.
The biggest retards of all, people call me and they say “can you believe how many big retards we have?” And I say “no,” I mean it folks, you are the biggest retards of all, believe me. My uncle was nuclear it’s all computer"
I am retarded and I agree. The word has never left my vocabulary. People have been calling me retarded as long as I can remember. I’ve got the pass and I give all of you the pass. It’s just word. People have called me far worse and many of my closest friends and family who would take a bullet for me call me retarded all the time. Just like I call all of them retarded whenever they do or say something retarded.
In the wise words of the Black Eyed Peas: “let’s get retarded in here.”
we’re all a little retarded at the end of the day, if you squint hard enough, it might even be pretty retarded. Because there isn’t anything to see, it’s a metaphor.
Anyway, this joke has overstayed it’s welcome, i will be on my way now.
I just hate that they deleted my comments and told ME it’s a slur I need to be upset about.
I ain’t upset about “retard” being used against me or others.
The .world admins can kiss my ass.
Oh wait I gotta be careful. Don’t want the retarded admins banning me for using my own words.
Sincerely,
your friendly neighborhood retard.
yeah, ultimately the only thing worse than unbridled bigotry, is misplaced accusations of bigotry. That’s one of the unfortunate things with this problem, and similar ones like it, is that unless you judge it by the character of the context, it can be really wide sweeping sometimes.
anyway, i hope you have a swell day fren :)
You too fren.
TBH kinda with you here, is it just the relatively recent proximity of the use of the word to refer those with intellectual disabilities?
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I actually looked this up and found a timeline, which shows the use is much more recent in medical contexts than I thought, Rosa’s Law 2010 is where it’s use was superceded in federal usage.
I honestly thought it was a kinda 50s to 70s kinda deal, not 70s - 2010; this does change my perspective and opinion a little bit, and I do feel a bit more sympathy as of how it’s still very much within living memory for some.
At the same time, I wonder whether those who take issue with it being used casually (not in reference to intellectual disability), take the same issue with the use of idiot, moron or imbecile, as retarded was used because those terms became common place and slang, not exclusively medical words.
I think that once the cat is out of the bag, (and the fact that both the medical society, and general society has moved past a single catch all term for intellectual disability) you can’t really keep a word from developing it’s own life.
I will note, my opinion doesn’t hold any real weight here, as I’m the UK we never had AFAIK a diagnosis of “Mental retardation”
is this where i say that we should cal him “Whee Rogan The Little” ?
Is that pronounced “wertle”? Is so I love it.
Make Hate Great Again?
Some fucking people man… Their entire identity is hatred and gargling Trump’s balls…
So the steroids got to his last brain cells. Good for him.
The only way I’d be ok with Rogan using that term is if he publicly discloses the results of an IQ test and he got sub 70…
And even then, it would only be ok if he was self identifying as that label, not calling anyone he can’t understand that.
It must be nice to have so much money and freedom from consequences that that’s the kind of thing that bothers you.
Or such little money and brain cells that that’s the thing that inspires you to go out and vote against your own interests
I’m absolutely convinced that there’s a certain threshold of money/power/privilege that just destroys a person’s humanity.
Nah, you’ve got it backwards. You don’t pursue that level of money/power/privilege unless you lack humanity. These guys were always shit, but power made them more effective at being shit.
what drinking too much donkey juice does to the brain
