• Hafty@lemmy.world
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      Is it a place where you can exchange money for food while you sit down at a table? Semantics.

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        Yes, you’re right. All these words are equal. It’s a pizzaria. A caffeteria maybe. Some might call it a bistro. Or a cafe. Perhaps a coffee shop or a burger joint. Quibbling over distinctions here would be semantics.

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          It’s almost like these different words to differentiate between the locations that offer varying services, you nonce.

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              The fact is that it’s pretty much irrelevant what kind of establishment it is. The point is who the fuck pays for that sandwich. Your insistence on correcting them on something totally irrelevant to the point makes you a twat.

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                Someone might pay for that sandwich if the primary function of the establishment is the consumption of alcohol (as it is in a pub) and not the serving of quality meals (as it is in a restaurant).

                In a pub, especially if it’s the type of place where some real serious drinking occurs, the primary function of the a method of filling a stomach and absorbing alcohol and that sandwich would probably fill the brief.

                I’m not saying it looks like a good sandwich, but it’s a practical one. A real sandwich for a real alcoholic. It’s definitely not the type of food you’d expect find in a restaurant. The type of place IS relevant, you chump.

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                  It isn’t because if you serve me food (not even good, just edible) and you give me that, IDC how shit faced I am, I’m gonna throw it at you. That isn’t food, and the fact that you’re so hellbent on pointing out that it’s a pub just enforces the stereotype that the English don’t know anything about food.

                  English food has always been “just have pints until it’s edible”. But even that has its limits.

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          Well, yes. If you shop around you are able to find the same kind of food on some place using any one of those names.

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      It’s the same damn thing

      There’s only so many words in the English language for “a place you can get a meal at”, you wanna go over em all?

      And yes I’ve been to actual midcountry pubs, they’re bars with good dining space usually situated in a village so people can walk there. They often have playgrounds, fuckin, somehow.

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        They’re absolutely not. A pub primarily sells beer, salted peanuts, and if they’re feeling fancy, a bread roll with stuff in it. A restaurant sells meals with plates and cutlery and has one or two crap lagers available. A gastropub does food and beer but both are crap and are twice as expensive.

        If you’re in an actual real pub, have had a handful of pints, this food is perfect, and ideally costs less than half a pint.

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          Blah blah blah blah

          At the end of the day it’s a BUSINESS with a KITCHEN, a staff, and a dining area. When Americans say “it’s a restaurant” that’s what we mean.

          I get the historical context. But you can’t define a pub in a business plan in any way that won’t leave me going “it’s a restaurant”. “It’s a neighborhood social gathering place for people to drink and eat and play!” Yeah I get it bro, it’s a bar.

          I know bar owners on both sides of the pond, you won’t fool me. In fact, i kinda hope you try. I was just in Nottingham for two weeks in November. Mfer you don’t go to the Midcountry IN WINTER unless you’re learning something.

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            Is a hot dog stand a restaurant?

            It’s a business with a kitchen, staff (1 person) and a dining area on occasion (foldable plastic chairs and tables).

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              That seems like an argument the courts are hearing. How does the legal definition of “restaurant” require “dining space”? Ed: tou seem to have edited since my reply. I say yes, a food truck is a restaurant.

              My point is, when Americans colloquially say “restaurant” they mean “any dining establishment”. We can piss and fight over semantics but what yall got are bars across from schools.