A German court has ruled that a Nazi concentration camp memorial has the right to refuse entry to those wearing the Palestinian keffiyeh scarf.
The higher administrative court in the eastern state of Thuringia on Wednesday rejected a request from a woman to be allowed entry to the Buchenwald concentration camp memorial while wearing a keffiyeh.
“It is unquestionable that this would endanger the sense of security of many Jews, especially at this site,” the court said.
All the people trying to define Genocide as being part of the Jewish identity, thus making anti-zionism “anti-semitic”, are doing a monumentally historic disservice to all Jewish communities and individuals around the world…
Regardless of anything else you might think, you just have to admit that this rationale is bullshit:
“It is unquestionable that this would endanger the sense of security of many Jews, especially at this site,” the court said.
It is not unquestionable that wearing a keffiyeh would endanger anyone’s sense of security.
Argue about anything else, but you cannot actually defend that “it is unquestionable”.
It ends up being easier to defend that not allowing people to wear a keffiyeh would endanger their heads to sun exposure.
Israeli jews are doing a genocide but you have you thought about the feelz of the coddled westoid jew?
I actually care very very much about the “feelz” of diaspora jews, who are actually not “coddled”, as evidenced by (a) antisemitic attacks (actual ones, not IHRA fake ones), and (b) the number of people lured by the fake Zionist promise of aliyah. anti-Semitism is very real, in the West as well. But the danger to western Jews is not in the pro-palestinian movement, it’s with the Far Right and its neolib enablers. The Christian Zionists are a far bigger threat to Jews who in Israel they have found the ideal “Madagascar” to get rid of the diaspora.
You are proving my point, thank you.
You can’t see, really, how anti-Semitism in the West is carrying Zionism’s water? The Zionist big lie is that Jews need Israel for safety. Every Zionist criminal is justifying their crimes by repeating “I have no other choice”. Zionism gets its legitimacy from Western antisemitism. Ending the Zionist colonial project means stopping and reversing the flow of settlers to Israel. That means that our job in the West is (also) to make it a silly choice for any Jew to even consider leaving here for some middle eastern bunker.
- I am not disputing there anti semtism out there
- jews are not the only people facing prejudice, in fact in modern western society they face less now that they assimilated into white majoritiesd
- Other face greater prejudice today than jews by a large margin. US is putting latinos into camps.
FINALLY: THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE WESTERN JEW, THIS IS ABOUT ISRAEL GENOCIDING ARABS.
And every time like clock work, somebody slides into the discussion about the genocide with: bUt ABoUT tHe WeStErN JeW, ThEY ArE SuFferIng too
That dilatory to the genocide discussion. Western jew will be fine, children in gaza are being bomb with US/EU supplied weapons today.
You are not reading what I’m writing, are you?
I am not saying Jews are the only people facing prejudice.
I am not saying they face the biggest prejudice.
Read what the fuck I’m actually saying instead of yelling at what I’m not saying.
I am drawing a direct link between the genocidal Israeli apartheid state and antisemitism in the West.
I am talking about how the one feeds and legitimizes the other.
I am talking about how defeating the one helps defeat the other.
READ WHAT I’M ACTUALLY WRITING
i think the director of the memorial has a more valid and nuanced point:
On the question of the keffiyeh, he told the NDR broadcaster last month that it was not per se “a forbidden symbol” at the memorial.
“However, when it is used together with other symbols … to relativise Nazi crimes, then we would ask people to remove those symbols,” he said.
I am sorry but the rhetorical door to the relativisation of Nazi crimes has been opened by the various Israeli top politicians and assorted right wingers who have been repeating ad nauseam that Hamas is the new Nazis or even worse than the Nazis.
If an Israeli top official is claiming that what Hamas is doing is WORSE than the Nazis, then, I’m very sorry but what Israel has been doing to Gaza the last couple of years is objectively worse than what Hamas is doing, and “worse” is a transitive word.
Can’t have the cake and eat it too.
i agree in general, but this is a holocaust memorial so the context is completely different
If the director had been acting perplexed as to why the keffiyeh is relevant, and if their take was a bit more nuanced and humanizing of the Palestinians and recognizing the shared humanity, I would agree. But this specifically is about excluding this particular ethnic group from sharing in the memory of the Holocaust. Which is kind of fucked up.
The Buchenwald memorial faced criticism last month when an internal document was leaked that described the keffiyeh as “closely associated with efforts to destroy the state of Israel”.
but in the very next sentence he’s quoted as saying
The director of the memorial, Jens-Christian Wagner, said subsequently that the document contained “mistakes” and would have to be reworked.
and also, it’s not just about the keffiyeh… as the article also says
The court found that the memorial was within its rights to deny her entry, pointing to the woman’s declared aim of “sending a political message against what she saw as the [memorial’s] one-sided support for the policies of the Israeli government”.
if she hadn’t have been trying to make a political statement, perhaps there’d have been a different outcome
at the very least, it’s not like a burqa where they’re not allowed to take it off, and thus couldn’t enter. she could have come in if she was willing to take the single item of clothing off… i’d expect the same treatment of someone wearing a hoodie saying “the nazis did some bad shit but have you heard what israel is doing?”: take it off or leave
Yes and Wagner’s admission actually aligns with the protestor’s intent pretty well, doesn’t it?
freedom of expression no longer exists in Germany or is it just bigotry against the keffiyeh?
Nonviolent protestors trying to explicitly stay within the confines of the constitution (Letzte Generation) are treated similarly to the RAF. Protesting your countries support for an ongoing Genocide will get you in a lot of trouble.
As demonstrated in history bourgeois democracies (and especially the FRG) have the remarkable ability to flexibly turn into (even morw ofl a police state (capital/status quo defence mode if you will) in a very short amount of time or gradually with tightening restrictions.
Palestine activists are hurting the cause if they can’t even show basic decency at a concentration camp. The people who died there have nothing to do with what is going on now in Gaza.
The only German freedom is the freedom to commit ethnic cleansing
They are making the Holocaust right today by helping Israel do a genocide…
Only the Jews died in the Holocaust! Never forget!
“Protesting” genocide (wearing a scarf) at a memorative site of genocide is apparently illogical to a lot of shitlibs.
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