I think having a thread for small questions (“What’s the IPA for this sound?”, “How do you write an affricate tie?”, etc.) that’s pinned and replaced every week or two would be good.

Just looking at new posts here in this community, i mostly see links to news articles and i don’t know if it would be appropriate to make a post for a small question with a simple but hard to find answer.

  • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyzM
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    6 days ago

    No because IPA only has symbols for segments and articulations that are attested in at least one language, and odds are that no language out there uses tongue rolled consonants:

    • a lot of people can’t articulate it, so the articulation is rather unstable if you think about the linguistic community as a whole
    • it takes considerable articulatory effort, and as you said it sounds a lot like other easier-to-pronounce sounds

    For symbols for “odd” articulations like this you have a better chance checking extIPA (extended IPA). Originally it was intended for disordered speech, but often you see the symbols leaking even for descriptions of ordered speech. I couldn’t find one for tongue rolling though.

      • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyzM
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        6 days ago

        Conlang, right?

        It’s completely fine to do some ad hoc IPA extensions when describing your conlang, just make sure to clarify them in the conlang files - both for others and for your future self. Or even ditch IPA and use a different notation system, made at home - specially when your conspeakers don’t have the same phonatory organs as humans would.