Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra 256GB - $1299
Apple 16 Pro Max 256GB - $1199
Google Pixel 9 Pro 256GB - $1199
The only person being represented by this meme is OP.
My current galaxy cost like $200
People paying a grand for a cell phone are suckers for real
Galaxies and pixels are half off msrp like 6 months later.
Their 1TB version is $1600 because they get away with charging $400 for $40 worth of storage.
Is it really 40$ in that form factor?
I just extrapolate from NVMe SSDs which are currently ~$55 for 1TB, so ~$40 for 750GB = 1TB - 250GB. It’s really hard to find info about the true cost of internal storage on mobile devices.
This logic is outdated. The top of the line iPhones are no more (and sometimes a bit less) than comparable Android flagships.
Their base models come in around high-midrange Android, true. But some of the specs (CPU/camera) still beat out Android phones at their price range. Heck on CPU they often beat more expensive Android phones.
I’m not saying that because I’m a fan of Apple it’s just like, it’s not just them. I’ve had something like 9 Android phones and 6 iPhones. Really in the end they aren’t that different day-to-day.
My older mid tier iphone was more expensive than my wife’s pixel 9 pro bought around the same time. Her phone is better in almost every way, for sure every way that matters. I am counting the days until I can switch back to a device that doesn’t suck.
I dont think the iPhone camera is better. In blind tests done by MKBHD, Google pixels consistently win.
Honestly, the only thing I care about when it comes to what other people do regarding phone purchases, is that that they at the very fucking least use their old phone until it breaks and don’t just go out and buy a new phone every two years because they want something new and shiny. People who do that low key disgust me.
Wouldn’t that effectively end the used phone market, forcing everyone to pay for new?
If phones were built to last and something you would only buy once every 10ish years, I think we would all be better for it. I also think buying a phone from new would mean something different than it does in today’s consumer culture. It would be way cheaper longterm for everybody as well.
The used phone market only exists because of the current buy and throw away culture we live in.
Personally I wish there was a way to just build a phone like with PCs. With the exception of needing to upgrade my SSDs my computer is basically good for another 10 years or so, I wish I could do the same for a smart phone.
That would be awesome, ngl. Maybe someday. I’m pretty sure that if a company started selling itself as a build a phone-company they would become quite successful very quickly. If I had the knowhow, I would straight up try and see if this idea has legs.
It most certainly has legs the biggest problem is parts standardization and the lack of any companies actually trying to do that. Even just an early HP style built to order would be a step in the right direction.
My upgrade schedule is about 7–8 years. iPhones do “just work” for that long.
i am withing this from my 2018 Huawei : Hello !
I tried using and old iPhone. You can’t install anything on it. If you go to the app store, it won’t tell you which apps are compatible. It’ll just download the app, and then show you error.
Android is better at this, apps generally support old versions for longer, and the play store is better at showing compatible apps.
Seems relevant…. https://imgur.com/ZDDnQDB
That’s every iPhone user…
Yep!
- post made from my five year old iPhone 11 Pro
Not really. I know a few iPhone users who have kept their phones for a long time. The most impressive case was a guy who had had the same phone for 11 years and only had to buy a new one because an update fried the old one.
True. If every iPhone user was a throwaway consumer, there wouldn’t have been such an outrage over apple “updating” slowness and inefficiency into older devices.
Says all the iPhone users. Your phones are throttled by the manufacturers and you still defend them and buy their products. Not very smart consumers. Sorry.
I don’t understand how one can believe it just works. Update fries the phone so they buy a new one from the same company that can’t or won’t make sure updates don’t fry older phones. Apple hates backwards compatibility.
I mean, I don’t get the love for Apple either, I just didn’t agree with the claim that all iPhone users were the types to discard a perfectly good phone for a new one 2 years later just because the new one was cooler.
The fact that someone can buy a new iPhone after having had an old one crash due to updates is their own prerogative.
I personally have a very low understanding of tech, but to me, it just seems like an industry standard to make phones that won’t live forever. Everybody does it. They could have given us phones with batteries that never wear out. They could have designed the tech to make sure it would work on all phones. They could halt tech evolution to make sure that no phone is left behind. But none of them do.
I originally wanted a button phone after my prior smartphone died. Then my government decided to force a new ID system on its citizens and make it exceedingly annoying and difficult to function in society without a smartphone. So I had to cave and get myself a new smartphone and wave goodbye to button phones forever.
I don’t know how long this phone will last me, but I hope it will survive ten years at the very least. Even though it isn’t an iPhone I avoid updates for as long as the phone allows me to because I don’t want to wake up one day and suddenly have a phone that doesn’t work.
We are all being scammed to some extent. Not just iPhone users.
leaves out the part where their old iphone “just stopped working” after a required update.
Mine is 5 years old. Doing just fine.
Not in a literal sense but apple do tend to cripple old iPhone with their newest software update. I should know i owned an iPhone 12 mini on ios 17. That little bugger stutter everytime i pull down the control centre, scrolling through safari, scrolling through app, delay when pressing keyboard and yes, the battery is above 90% iirc.
My wife’s iphone xr is even worse, granted it has been 7 years but god damn, that thing make my blood boil. Its still on ios 17, i cant imagine how slow it’s gonna be on ios 18. Battery is at 82% though but i dont think replacing battery is worth it at the moment. Just waiting for the right moment to upgrade.
Experiencing none of that on iPhone 11 Pro.
I think if anything, the 12 mini just had subpar tech due to size constraints. Sadly.
I think ios 17 is just buggy on iphone 12 mini because i compared it side by side with my wife iPhone XR and hers is just fine when pulling the control centre.
Also, i think the sole problem is apple is throttling the 12 mini when it gets too warm. Its a fine phone but the battery is really bad. I have long upgraded to another phone but its just bad experience on my part. Thats all.
My Oneplus 5t running LineageOS still works really well, snappy even.
It’s a year older then the XR
Yes, but how’s the official ROM support?
Does it matter? They made it easy to ROM and now my device gets to live on by the support of the community. That’s how tech should be. We can’t expect endless support from companies (it’s just not realistic) but if they don’t actively hinder you from owning your own device and making it somewhat modifiable, it adds a lot of life.
In the context of the iPhone XR mentioned by the post I replied to, that “official ROM” is nearly non-functional, is that really better in your opinion?
Yes. This is what im talking about. If only i can flash a lightweight os on my wife iphone and extend its life i would. Ultimately, it stuck on ios 18 with piss poor performance. Its a bad experience. Why should i contribute to another ewaste if i can help it.
It does matter because for most people that phone became e-waste around 2020. Iphones released that year got major OS upgrades till 2022 and are still getting security updates.
I do wish Apple was forced to unlock the bootloader, but for 95% of users, their phones get significantly longer support than normal.
So one is potential ewaste (Oneplus with an uninformed user) the other is absolutely ewaste.
Again I really don’t see your point?
Funny, I have an XS from the same year and it’s totally fine on iOS 18. I might even replace the battery.
Funny you said that because one has 4GB ram and another has 3GB ram. Plus, my wife has a 64GB model and its almost full. Performance really took a nose dive. You must have a really low bar regarding performance.
Take a look at the video. Opening app takes awhile compared to XS and multitasking is shit. Opened up a camera and go back to another app, guess what? Refreshed.
I don’t know what you want me to say. I don’t have an XR apart from a test one at work maybe.
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I’ve had the same experience. I had a 6s and an XR, and they both slowed down tremendously overnight after iOS updates (not the same one, 6s happened a few years before). Also, the update for the 6s that caused performance issues also removed/made redundant a lot of the OS features that made use of 3D Touch, because the newer phones didn’t have it anymore. For the 6s, I know it wasn’t a battery issue; I replaced that battery, and it didn’t fix them.
For a minute, battery replacements or repairs weren’t even a reasonable option, with how repair-unfriendly their phones had gotten. But afaik they’ve improved in that regard, providing official tools, parts and guidance. Also, you can call them to have them activate the Face ID module if you replace a screen, which is a big win for right-to-repair. Props to them for that!
So tired of the audience participation in these endless phone wars. Oh you have a smart phone? Dope! They’re cool and useful. Anyway
I like Apple’s os, App Store and processors better than android’s. I like Android’s everything else better than apple’s.
Ultimately you are getting fucked anyway but you get to pick the guy who fucks you.
If people were simply pointing out the pros and cons of the various devices, it would be very helpful and useful. I don’t care if you hate Apple, I just want information about the hardware and software and if it’s a good value proposition.
When android isn’t spyware, I’ll consider switching.
Let me tell you about our lord and saviour GrapheneOS
Not sure if you’re being sarcastic. If so, hilarious! But, it’s the expected response from an android Lemmy user to reference graphene os.
I actually bought a pixel and installed graphene on it just to give it a try. It’s not bad, and I can do probably 90% of the things I need on there. There are even some nice apps and features you can’t get on iOS (storage scopes is cool). But, at the end of the day, switching is hard. My biggest gripe is backups suck and fail 100% of the time, also no support for touchless payments. Also, android doesn’t manage battery life that well. Some days it’s fine, but other days it randomly drains to almost zero. At the end of the day, I don’t think the solution is to hack together an OS to work on a company’s hardware that doesn’t really support the mission. I wish the Graphene team would partner with Fairphone or something. Anyway, I’ll probably keep using the Pixel here and there, but I don’t know if I could daily drive it. I did try.
While this is a fair criticism of Android you don’t exactly have access to check and see if Apple is doing the same thing like you do with Android. You’re really just taking Apple at their word and they wont even let you cloud save to anything but their servers and can dig through your photos to find illegal content.
Fanboi: “Apple does everything Android does! They just lie about it!”
Apple is no saint, but they have a different business model with different pressures. There’s little incentive for them to commit the same sins Android does.
They can’t keep getting away with this!!!
“it just works” is also what my partner says, but we can’t videocall through Signal for longer than 1h because her iPhone will overheat and go into temp error mode and shuts down. And even when charging the battery with the official charger it will drain faster than it can charge during a videocall. Apple is far superior for sure xD
I mean, sure. We could all just list anecdotes on why one or the other is superior.
Tap for spoiler
The superior phone is the one you like to use.
I agree with your spoiler. But when you look at how Apple works, with there monopoly with their app store and how old phones get mediocre updates while newer phones lack significant improvements, while they do their best to make it exclusive (for example, even though usb C is forced on to them, they have their own version. But also removing the aux plus which sadly is copied by other brands). Samsung does the same, as they joined the fight against right to repair so they are just as evil as Apple imo. Many brands are either from mega corps and push apps onto you and love to exploit their users, or are Chinese brands stealing away customers with too cheap prices while their next line is just as bad as the competition while they hoard your data. It’s hard to find a decent brand these days. It’s just an ocean of shit companies.
The Iphone is a luxury commodity and like all luxury commodities it marketed for people with little sense and lots of money who are easily separated from the ladder with shiny trinkets. Before the Iphone there was the Rolex and the super-secret clothing designer brands only 1%er yuppies think they know about. Before that people ground up egyptian mummies for medicine/taste and bought expensive jar of nutmeg spice from halfway across the world imported via boat. These kind of people were always going to spend 2000$ on trinkets whether its a 2000$ pocket computer or a 800$ wrist watch is a difference in taste. The real question is why humanity can’t shed this consumerist prone archetype what is it about people constantly wanting new shiny things that they don’t need and for which the money can go to a better place? Why do modern consumerist not have the ability to tell corporations to fuck off? Why is it that after a quarter century of time to get used to the concept of a computer and an email people tantrum and shriek when their tappy button gets moved 2 inches to the left without knowing how to fix it? Why do we consider this an acceptable baseline for human intelligence and emotional volatility?
And the $2k Galaxy Folds are for discerning consumers?
No, the 100-200$ Galaxy S mid range android phone with half decent RAM, screen size, actual specs and features that enable practical work, social communication, or entertainment consumption with a reasonable price to lifespan cycle ratio is.
You know, something you can actually buy outright, calculate approximately how much value you got by how many years it lasted before breaking, and not get stuck into a never-ending cycle of slowly frog-boiling raising contract rates.
So wheres the brand new retail sold 200$ Iphone budget entry for the plebs to access the IOS ecosystem on the cheap?
Yeah, I thought so. its called market segregation and Apple knows the exact crowd they made a billion dollar industry pleasing.
Any phone thats >500$ and doubley so for >1000$ are for the people who spend hundreds of dollars a month on contracts renewing them continuously every two years convinced its somehow a deal and don’t think twice about it. Different flavor of luxury good gotta get that tribalism social posturing in after all.
If you were a true professional in an industry making complete use for videography, audio recording and editing, music production, I could maybe see it.
But lets be real, thats the statistical outlier for apple users you know exactly what 99% of people do with their phones. Check emails, shit posting on the internet, watch youtube, MAYBE record a quick video or picture without knowing how to manually balance anything or even knowing what an ISO is.
So wheres the brand new retail sold 200$ Iphone budget entry for the plebs to access the IOS ecosystem on the cheap?
They used to have the iPhone SE series, which was significantly cheaper than the standard ones. Prices went up on those each generation, though, and they discontinued it for the “e” variants for the mainline iPhones, which are much more expensive than even the most expensive SE.
I honestly don’t know why smartphones got so powerful and expensive, and why everyone just rolled with it. No one iPhone user needs the hardware that the latest iPhone provides, and I’m sure as hell Apple doesn’t even let you push that hardware to its limits. The average Joe just uses an instant messenger app and maybe a few social media apps, and that’s it. Who in the world actually needs hardware so powerful and compact on a phone that it is on the verge of experiencing quantum tunneling?
It might just be the old, but I’m having trouble thinking of the last time there was any meaningful advance in mobile phones at all. Face ID comes to mind.
Not a day goes by where I don’t feel angry that there are no viable, mainstream FLOSS Linux phones. No Android, nothing downstream of Google at all… just Linux and a nice, touch-friendly UI. Until then, I pinch my nose and pick Apple as the lesser of the available evils.
Dude I’m still bitter about Apple killing 3D Touch. It’s like companies research what I like and when they find it that’s the tipping point for killing a feature/flavor/model/etc.
Canonical had a really interesting idea for a Linux phone back in the day but it never launched. There are some Linux phones trying to make that happen but it’s just not likely to see the widespread adoption needed to fund development.
We can’t have nice things.
Last time I went to my cellphone carrier offices to upgrade my hardware, they were already pushing the iPhone 15 or 16, but I went in there and asked for the iPhone 10, managed to get the very last one they had in stock. It cost a fraction of what the latest ones did, does everything I need it to do, and a couple of years later it’s still purring like a kitten.
it’s still purring like a kitten.
…should a phone be doing that?
I mean hey as long as it’s not breathing and whistling!
2020 iPhone SE is my favorite phone. It’s the perfect size and power. Apple’s going to have to pry it from my cold dead hands.
I bought that one refurbed for one of my kids. I was definitely impressed. Small, fast, actual iOS version. Where is this magic phone from? Its not like the others.
What’s there to innovate, really? That ship has sailed back in the ‘90’s.
Nokia, Motorola, Sony-Ericksson and a bunch of other companies put out a ton of really neat phones. Tech moved so fast, every six months you’d see new leaps: introducing a color screen, Bluetooth, new ringtone formats, WAP, installable apps, etc.
These days we’ve pretty much settled on boring rectangular slabs. Innovation means yet another camera, a .01 mm thinner phone, a faster screen… none of it really exciting.
We all need phones. And yes, iPhones just work. There’s nothing wrong with buying a thing that just works. I don’t need my toaster to ‘innovate’ either - just to make toast predictably, you know?
The most innovative thing the iPhone has added in years is the LiDAR and like <1% of the users actually use that beyond Face ID.
