How familiar are you with the concept of civil war?
If he would go to bomb an American city a civil war will start. Then they authority to stop him or not will rely on the winner of the war.
I’m not sure what you mean. He can do almost any single act he wants. But depending on what it is, the response could possibly come back to bite him in the ass.
Like his fucking around with Epstein or his claims of ending various wars. He fucked around and is in the process of finding out. But he’s rich, so he won’t get locked up, because that’s how the justice system is designed.
In reality, most of the world doesn’t respect him, including most of the U.S. And like any scam artist, he caves when he has no other choice, and then lies about it. So, is the U.S. totally fucked? We’ll find out, won’t we. There’s no guarantees in life. And it also depends how white and how male you are, too.
I mean the dems voted for the people who firefombed gaza.
It’d be your own medicine really
So did the other side. What’s your point?
We’ll ultimately be rescued by an invading foreign army: Canada, Mexico or China.
Rescued by china?
they’ll sell off what still remains in aliexpress.
On paper there’s plenty that could. The Supreme Court could have stepped in to stop a lot of this. Executive orders only stand in places where a full fledged law from congress doesn’t cover the issue. The military is theoretically as obligated to disobey an unlawful order as they are to obey a lawful one and states are theoretically pretty insulated from federal interference except in a few explicit areas.
But, we don’t live on paper and none of those protections exist unless there are people out there who are ready, willing, and able, to act on them. What happens if the Supreme Court somehow manages to rule against the administration and they just flagrantly disregard the order? What happens if Trump orders the military to start attacking US citizens openly or starts an illegal war without congressional approval? What happens if Trump runs for president again in 2028? Or just says he’s president for life and we’re not doing elections anymore?
The answer is nothing, unless people stand up against him. And… so far… we haven’t seen much of that. Not from people in government at any rate. We’ve seen a bit from normal folks on the ground in places like LA, but our government’s been working to neuter the power of popular protest since the civil rights protests, perhaps even earlier. So reasonable people can disagree on the efficacy of that.
I really don’t want to echo the doomer line I’ve seen written here a lot, but yeah, we’re probably fucked. Like maybe if something was done like… a decade ago? Two? Maybe we wouldn’t be in this situation. But… as things stand? I don’t even know if the damage from the first Trump presidency can ever truly be repaired and more damage is being done on a weekly, almost a daily basis. Personally? I think it’s only a matter of time before this man breaks the global economy irreparably. In a way that simply can’t be swept under the rug again. Domestically? Who the fuck knows at this point? I have to resist the urge to laugh out loud whenever people ask where I see myself in five years because at this point I’ve got no idea what the next two weeks are gonna hold.
So… yeah. Fun times in the ol US of A.
the scotus being 6-3 super majority conservative isnt going to do anything against trump.
I’m no expert but
also long as the USA doesn’t bomb another countryisn’t it’s kind of the responsibility of the USA itself and their people?Keep in mind that he already ordered the military forces to siege US cities, and they gone through the process of doing it while refusing to escalate into actual violence.
Trump doesn’t seem to have that much control. I’m not sure he would be arrested if he ordered a strike, but I don’t think it would happen either.
No, the USA is not fucked.
Everything happening now has happened before, and worse, and the USA has endured. It may take some time, but the US will be fine.
The difference is now there are countries who have their shit together and will happily let the US become irrelevant.
The USA is fucked. Your systems have horribly failed to stop him and the rest of the world has no interest in getting into a fight with the strongest country in the world over how many Holocausts it plans to do in its territory (or, realistically, Canadian territory).
You’re either trolling or you’re too far gone from reality to get back.
Who hurt you?
Noone, I just think that anyone who thinks he would get away with bombing a city is either trolling or has a tinfoil hat so heavy they would not get phone reception under it.
I’ll assume it’s a troll and thought it useless to feed him attention.
Before Trump’ first term I didn’t think any president would get away with:
- overturn Roe v. Wade
- Accept multi-million dollar bribes from historical enemies
- Be a convicted felon
- Incite an insurrection
- Deploy marines into an American city
- Refuse to return documents of the highest security clearance
- Have publicly supported, criminal proceedings against him dismissed.
- Blatantly destroy the 100+ year friendly relationship with Canada
- Demand personal loyalty pledges from his appointees
- Publicly ask Russia to help him during his presidential campaign
- Ask a govenor to fraudulently manufacture electoral votes
- Public threats to private citizens about revoking their citizenship
- No due process extraditions to brutal, non-American, non-Democratic countries prison’s
- Suddenly abandon military bases leaving allies fucked
- Tarrifing the world … I’m tired of writing this shit.
At this point Trump could bomb a U.S. city, claim it was a terrorist attack, and just dismiss any agency that contradicted him. Fox ‘news’ would tell their viewers that the Liberals were blaming Trump just because they hate him, and they would fall in line. Any news program that claimed otherwise would be labeled “fake news”. The sheep that watch Fox news would cancel any host who dared question Trump.
There is no one holding him accountable for anything. The Supreme Court told him to turn planes around and he just didn’t. If Trump dropped a bomb on a U.S. city, assuming you could convince people he did it (which I doubt), who is it that goes to the White House and drag him to court? No one. They wouldn’t let anyone in.
The only solution is protest. If 3% of Americans protested things would change. Historically, 3% is the number. But the longer they wait the harder it is, and they are all convinced they can’t do anything.
people need to stop quoting that 3% nonsense. its not 3% of the population chanting and waving signs that trigger change. its violence, either economic, property or physical. you’re not going to accomplish anything until you start breaking shit. and from i’ve seen people in the US are no where near the state of being willing to do that.
The 3.5% rule is a concept in political science that states that when 3.5% of the population of a country protest nonviolently against a government, that government is likely to fall from power. The rule was formulated by Erica Chenoweth in 2013. It arose out of insights originally published by political scientist Mark Lichbach in 1995 in his book The Rebel’s Dilemma: Economics, Cognition, and Society.
Non-Violent
Look at it this way, Trump is legally capable of firing the Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank (Jerome Powell), and he hates that man’s fucking guts. Practically speaking though, Trump can’t sack the guy without sending shockwaves through the financial world and tanking our economy. At the moment, Trump is trying to trump up (heh) a reason to fire Powell because he can’t do it by fiat.
If his hands are tied over this thing he can legally do, you think he’d be able to bomb American cities? Think even the stoutest MAGA would applaud the bombing of New Orleans? They’re turning on him over the pedo thing, destroying an American city is two orders of magnitude worse.
Why bomb new orleans when you can just wait for the next hurricane and send the fema
Could stop him or would stop him? SCOTUS has granted him blanket immunity for anything done as an “official act”, without bothering to specify exactly what an official act is. This has opened up a Pandora’s Box, needless to say. They’re literally expanding the power of the President, not limiting it.
Congress, since it is fully GOP-dominated, will neither impeach him nor attempt to override any veto should they pass laws to curtail his activities. Not that they would, of course.
The military has a duty to follow the Constitution and is supposed to disregard any orders to the contrary. But whether the military will act according to Trump or the Constitution is an open question. Remember, Trump has removed a number of senior officers whose loyalty to him was in question. And there are a lot of right-wing extremist types in the lower ranks of the military.
In short, we’re probably FUCKED.
USA fucked
