Companion article here: https://boilingsteam.com/distro-for-gaming-cachy-os-takes-over/ Video for the performance comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DT2Z5QY8mE
  • Dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    28·
    11 days ago

    I don’t get it, CachyOS is probably improving performance in the low single digit percentages. Why are people so crazy about it?

    • kewjo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      11 days ago

      flapak when i was using it on arch always had issues getting gamescope to run as the flapak version doesn’t match the version in steam. with wine adopting support for native Wayland and improvements to Vulcan layers i think flapak version may start to get more popular. but for now the main limiter is, “do i need gamescope to play?”

      • ElectroLisa@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        4·
        11 days ago

        If I’m not mistaken the Gamescope issue in Flatpak is not caused by Arch but the Flatpak itself and how it isolates files, making games escape the Gamescope session

        • kewjo@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          11 days ago

          yeah the flatpak version of gamescope is the latest version which is meant more to be used in something like lutris or directly with wine. my understanding is a bit hazy on the issue but i think flatpak steam or the Vulcan layers required a specific version or you get something about compatibility and the game would still launch but disable gamescope.

          i think the workaround was to install gamescope through pacman and then configure steam to be able to access it.

    • ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zipEnglish
      2·
      10 days ago

      Imagine having a 40% market share and losing it all. Honestly, it’s kind of incredible how far Ubuntu has fallen. Hopefully it serves as a lesson for anyone thinking about alienating their users.

    • vividspecter@aussie.zoneEnglish
      2·
      10 days ago

      The sandboxing sometimes breaks applications or requires additional configuration. And I don’t like that it’s a separate thing I need to maintain, although some package managers pair main package updates etc together.

      And as a NixOS user, I prefer to use nix to handle as much of my system as possible, although flatpak at least is useful as a fallback in a pinch. Of course, this is a niche within a niche and mainstream users, particularly those using immutable distros can and do benefit from flatpak.

  • gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com
    176·
    11 days ago

    I keep hearing this, but I don’t really want an Arch-based distro because I don’t want fixing my computer to become a hobby. I have a 10-year-old PC running Debian 12 that can still play (some) games that came out this year, so it doesn’t feel like I should switch.

    • Creat@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      10·
      11 days ago

      I finally switched from Windows to Linux and chose CachyOS. This was months ago. I never had to fix anything (so far). There was a fuck up by me once, but that wasn’t the distros and could’ve happened on any distro. Honestly couldn’t be happier with it being arch based, as it’s really nice to basically get anything that is released instantly as a package update.

      I haven’t had to hunt for packages that aren’t years old for anything as I was used to on Debian (used on most of my servers). And while the AUR is there, I think I got a total of two things installed from there, anything else was just there in the repos.

      But if you’ve got a setup that already works, and you’re happy with, why change anything? Having something that works for you is what makes the large amounts of choices in the Linux world so great.

      • dil@piefed.zipEnglish
        3·
        11 days ago

        I love every package being on the aur or flathub, its so convenient compared to the windows way of discovering and installing software.

        • dil@piefed.zipEnglish
          2·
          11 days ago

          I did swap to bazaar as the appstore, its on aur, works very well, the search actually works, like if i search fps, all the fps games show up, doesn’t work anywhere else for me. And the background downloads, plus download progress manager you could view is nice, bothered me it wasn’t a thing. Would love something like bazaar for the aur, but that’d prob be a chore to mantain compared to flathub that already has icons and images.

    • rowinxavier@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      11 days ago

      I have found that with Arch I don’t run out of troubleshooting before the problem is solved like I did with Debian. That said, the learning curve is a little steep so not switching makes sense, but I find it better personally. Just like in Windows things are out of your control I felt that Debian had strong defaults and I had trouble changing them too far. I am sure ignorance played a role but I have found the documentation on the Arch wiki was more useful in actually solving my problems.

      • Auth@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        11 days ago

        Yes its based on arch packages but its not the same as when people say “arch based distro” because SteamOS doesn’t inherit the arch problems because its not on archs update schedule. While other arch based distro’s follow the arch schedule and get all the issues that come with bleeding edge software.

          • Auth@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            9 days ago

            Not at all. Manjaro holds packages back for 2 weeks and thats it. SteamOS has its entire root system setup in an immutable way. SteamOS doesnt enable pacman and expects users to only use flatpak for software.

    • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      61·
      11 days ago

      Same. I tried arch many moons ago and heard all the stories and that was enough.

      Maybe it’s better by now but fedora has been stable and things like bazzite with immutability exist. Not sure why I’d pick cachy then. Especially if the gains are that minimal.

      • dil@piefed.zipEnglish
        5·
        11 days ago

        I like the aur, only reason i stayed on cachyos instead of trying bazzite, def won’t find everything as a flatpak.

  • driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.brEnglish
    9·
    11 days ago

    I tried CatchyOS for a HTPC and really liked the UX, but can’t remember what happened with it, something broke or couldn’t do something, and settled for Bazzite and it’s have been working good so far.

  • Defaced@lemmy.worldEnglish
    91·
    10 days ago

    Love cachyOS, I don’t pay much attention to the claimed performance improvements. I just think it has some really good defaults and in-house tools for beginners that make navigating an Arch distro easier.

  • randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    7·
    11 days ago

    I’m genuinely happy to see people trying out new stuff! I like seeing all the new approaches every distro takes, understanding real use cases, making interesting design decisions at each turn.

    This is what it used to be like to be a PC enthusiast and I think it’s great to see computing become personal again.

    Now CachyOS I’ve been following for a while and it seems much closer to something like endeavor which is still prone to all the potential issues I’ve experienced before. I’ve moved to ublue Bazzite and bluefin recently because the out of box experience is amazing and updates are pretty much immaculate.

    I still don’t understand what Cachy does in its kernel optimization and BORE scheduler properly but I’d love to learn and understand.

    Either way, I_see_this_as_an_absolute_win.gif

  • WereCat@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6·
    11 days ago

    Gave CachyOS a try over weekend and I’m back to Fedora. It’s not really appealing to me at all but I can see why people like it.

    • Comexs@lemmy.zipEnglish
      1·
      11 days ago

      First before the results, the usual disclaimer, as this data comes from ‘ProtonDB’:

  • coke38@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    11 days ago

    Funny that I see an article about CachyOS, i just installed it this morning because of some trouble with an RX 9060 XT that I couldn’t get it to work with kubuntu. It just worked out of the box with CachyOS. I know it would probably have worked with other distro but still…

    • Auth@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      11 days ago

      That is likely due to the RX9000 lineup needing the newer kernel for driver support. Kubuntu maybe didnt ship that 6.14 kernel at the time. Cachy is the best for new hardware because they have great tools for switching kernels and patching everything up to the bleeding edge. They make it easy to grab the latest kernel, mesa, nvidia driver or whatever you need for new hardware.

  • yardratianSoma@lemmy.caEnglish
    51·
    10 days ago

    glad more people are using Arch-based distros! I finally installed arch (btw) without the archinstall script, and I must say, the more people that can potentially feel the sense of accomplishment that I felt when I got my display manager and window manager set up the way I wanted, the better!

  • itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.mlEnglish
    21·
    11 days ago

    I didn’t know Pop_OS was no longer being updated. I know I’ve had recent updates though. Perhaps I should switch distros.

    • pcn@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      11 days ago

      The work on cosmic is proceeding and as far as I know when cosmic is done, 24.04 will be released. In the mean time 22.04 still gets updates.

    • Lazhward@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      11 days ago

      It’s being updated, just not being changed constantly I guess? I dunno, I think it’s kinda nice.