Do you hate Netanjahu and the Israeli people that protest against him equally?
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Do you hate Netanjahu and the Israeli people that protest against him equally?
Oh I’m sorry, I thought this was the comment section of an apolitical Linux meme.
I’m sorry, but why does my comment get deleted, when I criticise Aral Balkan for comparing the Genozide in Gaza with the Holocaust and Israel with Nazi Germany?
Both those things are just wrong, not just politically but also historically. Regardless of your position in this conflict.
You might not have to agree with me, that those comparisons are antisemitic, but they are wrong and moreover extremely problematic. And I really don’t mean to say that the Israeli government isn’t a bunch of right-wing racist and there isn’t a horrible humanitarian crisis going in in Gaza.
But Israel is not Nazi Germany and the Genocide in Gaza is not like the Holocaust. And everybody how is saying that must rightfully be criticized for it.
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Haganah actually fought against Irgun and Lehi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Saison
“The Haganah, the largest Yishuv paramilitary, was a Labor Zionist organization; on occasion, it partook in military action (such as during The Saison) against certain radical right-wing Jewish political opponents and militant groups, sometimes in cooperation with the British Mandate administration.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Zionism#History
And the Irgun split from Haganah, because they were presumably too defensive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haganah#1931_Irgun_split
Ah, the good old comparison of Israel and Nazis. Please be antisemitic somewhere else.
The Kibbutz movement is heavily influenced by Anarchism for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_in_Israel.
Socialist Zionists were probably oppressed just like Socialist Anti-Zionists.
I wasn’t talking about Israel’s politics, but about the very diverse history of Zionism. Also comparing Israel with Nazi Germany isn’t pretty problematic.
What do you mean? I didn’t declare anything.
No you don’t. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Zionism
Yeah, because Zionism is not particularly about the land of today’s Israel and Palestine, but about a Jewish state in some form.
Socialist Zionism is not at all about excluding, exploiting or oppressing.
Funnily enough it was also Albert Einstein, who supported Labor Zionism.
Jewish culture and history, especially Zionism is as diverse as every other culture and people is. Picking the worst doesn’t show the whole picture about Zionism. There is a whole Socialist and even Anarchist tradition of and within Zionism.
EDIT: I didn’t mean to offend anybody and everybody has a right to criticize Israel. My whole point is that Israel’s history and especially Zionism is obviously not one-sided, but is also rich in liberal and progressive ideas, that are worth to studied.
If you are interested in Socialist Zionism I recommend the following article as a starting point:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Zionism
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