• floo@retrolemmy.com
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    2 months ago

    You know, at one point during this war, I thought, “they’re compelled to service, most of them probably don’t wanna be there, and we can’t hold them responsible for the orders of the state.”

    Then I saw some interviews with some IDF soldiers. Then I saw more interviews. And it’s the same in recent interviews: they are happy to be there, and they absolutely love genociding Palestinians.

    Fuck the IDF

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        2 months ago

        Probably. Oude like some further analysis on that, but I am definitely inclined to agree with you.

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        Brainwashing can only go so far. At some point, (such as targeting civilian children) any sane soldier will crack and say “No”.

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      Even if it were the case that they didn’t want to be there, “just following orders” is not an acceptable excuse for committing a genocide. The morally correct thing to do if you’re compelled to service in the IDF is to refuse and face the consequences, because they cannot be worse than the moral injury of being tasked with the murder of innocent children.

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      If I was a news agency with an agenda I wouldn’t be broadcasting the interviews that are negative either. Those you will find on foreign TV channels, 10-20 years from now after those who are currently serving finish their mandatory service and immigrate elsewhere. Every once in a while some event happens which becomes difficult to cover up. Like the Pilot Letters from 2003 and 2023, but it is the exception rather then the norm.

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      Even for the ones compelled to be there who have little (not no) choice, it doesn’t mean the IDF isn’t a terrorist organization. Other terrorist groups use force to get soldiers, yet we don’t pull our punches calling them out.

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      2 months ago

      There are older documentaries where older IDF recount war crimes and being proud of it… this been going since the creation of this project … the two main forces that created the IDF are UK Registered terrorist organization.

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        My friend, it’s really important that you get the subjects correct. We were talking about Israeli soldiers here, and even if you generalize, Israelis. We are not talking about Jewish people on the whole.