“There’s a spectre of Communism haunting New York.”- Mohammed Kalam Maqsood.
So if it’s city owned it’s bad because any profits would go back to the city. But if it private owned it’s good because the profits go to a few rich people? I must be missing something
I think that the problem is you’re looking at this from a reasonable perspective.
In fact you could do one better - it doesn’t need to make a profit, just break even, so you could either have lower prices, helping the community save money, or higher wages, helping the community spend money. But since it helps most people instead of a few people, it’s bad according to capitalism.
That’ll cause competition with the private owned stores and force them to push down prices / raise wages until their profit margins are gone, putting them out of business.
The only entity that will buy the defunct stores will be the state , or maybe some actual non-profits , and now the state owns all the grocery stores and communism will be achieved. Then we get bread lines, is that what you want? /s.
I am fond of bread
Yes!
Even if people believe that (and I know they do 🙄) that then gives you a niche for a private business to fill. City store always busy? This private store is more expensive but you don’t have to wait in line as long. People will pay that difference to save time, especially in NYC.
Yes but if it‘s city owned, the profits won‘t go towards exploitation of (mostly) non-white laborers and dismantling the social system. Just think of how many humanitarian aid programs could be defunded and how much the environment could be stripped of its resources if we let the private sector maximize their profits!
/s
“Won’t somebody think off the job creators?” they’ll unironically tell you after laying off thousands of people.
Won’t that just drive business to the city-owned stores? Sounds like he’s trying to help!
Nice of the billionaire to vacate perfect real estate for city owned grocery stores
Indoor farmer’s markets? I thought NYC was peak hipster already
I mean, sure, that’s very funny, but please don’t help feed the right-wing lie falsely equating democratic socialism with communism.
To be clear, all socialism, communism included, is democratic. “Democratic Socialism” just refers to reformist socialism, in most cases, or is used to make social democracy seem more appealing. Mamdani has expressed support for more radical groups online, though, so it’s clear that he isn’t just your typical social democrat at minimum.
Oh man kerala reference
socialism and communism can be any form of government you want because they are economic styles
Not really. You can’t compartmentalize government from the economy, both are so thoroughly inter-twined that they cannot be truly distinct. There’s wiggle room, to be sure, but the state is fundamentally attached to the question of the class structure of a society. Systems aren’t recipes picked out in a book, but physical things that evolve and change over time, radically shifting societal structures not due to decisions made by individuals, but economic compulsion.
That’s why the study of economics was often called “Political Economy.”
which form of government isn’t compatible with which form of economy? I guess a communist anarchy would be pretty hard, but not impossible. totalitarian free-market capitalism, not as hard. I’m not saying some don’t work better together.
You’re again looking at government systems as personal choices, and not as intrinsically tied to the economy. Just because you can imagine a form of society doesn’t mean it’s actually feasible in the real world, this is called utopianism, ie crafting a utopia in your head like someone picking out their outfit for the day, rather than through economic analysis.
Further, most anarchists would consider themselves communists, though the focus on horizontalism makes it a very different form of communism from Marxist communism, which is fully centralized. Moreover, “totalitarian” isn’t a form of government, really, just a descriptor for levels of freedom of an individual in a subjective, negative manner.
The best promo for ML: Giving erudite answers, the real commies know their stuff.
Thanks, comrade! I appreciate the complement!
I think it’s a bit confusing, but in my view almost all socialists (including democratic socialists) are communists since the end goal they are trying to achieve is communism. Socialism (which can be described as welfare state, majority-publicly owned capital, and planned or market-socialist economy) is almost always seen as a stepping stone towards communism (stateless, classless, moneyless society), even though it is would also be an improvement on its own.
(to confuse matters even further, Lenin’s party was initially called Russian Social-Democratic Labour Party, even though today’s understanding of social-democracy would only apply to the Menshevik wing).
Yea, in the bolshevik’s case back then Social Democracy was also used as a term for communism in some areas. Not so much anymore, but that makes reading older texts a bit confusing if you aren’t aware of that.
Was tempted to troll lemmygrad with this classic meme: https://lefty.pictures/post/view/15726
Good meme, but it wouldn’t work on grad, we did read enough theory to know the history behind that name.
Right, getting one past Lemmygrad is about as easy as getting past Stalingrad.
Pretty sure they’d get the irony, lol. A tier shitpost
Seize his stores then. The city can run them for the people.
Fuck him. They raise prices if people vote for a Democrat. They raise prices if people vote for a Republican.
All the while depending on a system based on obfuscation of the fact that a large portion of the time a worker labors for is unpaid.
Good. And while you’re at it close all your other stores, fucking parasite.
Closeted fearful European supremacists, lol. So what if everyone who looks like you and is in power is a liar, a thief and often a sex-pest? Just disassociate from them and pick someone because of their character! :D
If a billionaire grocer has decided it’s not worth the effort to build a grocery store for a community, why would they be upset that the state fills in the gaps left by them? Be reasonable.
It is because they are going to use the billionaires tax dollars to open a grocery store that he would have to compete against.
Oh wait, he probably doesn’t pay taxes.
Oh no /s
Its always the same excuses with these mfers. Do it, we dont care. Take your family and go to africa or russia. Most of the assets however belong, rightfully so, to the society that created them.
Yes! Seriously if they don’t like it, just go somewhere else. Go live in your bunker, I don’t care just don’t come back complaining about it and don’t pretend like you can still own all the resources and land from down there.
There ability to skim money from those that actually do labor doesn’t seem like to matter to the farmers who need to grow food to sell it, and the people buying it will continue to do so. I don’t get how these skimmers/leeches think they are the beginning and end of all social contracts.
Lol.
Capitalist leech says he’ll willingly lose capital.
Liiiiiiiiiiar.
The dollar is holy to these freaks. They won’t jeopardize a single one.
Call his fucking bluff. The only way anything would close is if it isn’t profitable (enough). And if they can’t turn a profit, well then they need to be better at business! (/s).
No matter the outcome, boycott this fucker.
which millionaire?
All?
I like that lil commie ghost, where can I get stickers?
You could make them and capitalism the hell out of it.
He is The Spectre of Communism!!! BOO!!
Ha! I like this one too looks like communism yawning, getting ready to get the day started.
It sounds like a great plan, this way there will be plenty of nice store locations available for these state own groceries store.
