They are citing ONS figures of excess deaths as proof the vaccines are killing people. I tried to explain that not being able to get a doctor’s appointment, staying home and getting fat, etc explain the figures (official sources have said it too) but they said it’s “gaslighting” and then said their family doctor wouldn’t get the vaccine.

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    Speaking as a person who had 2 family members die within a year of taking the vaccine (heart attacks), this whole thing stinks.

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    I’m on the ONS site and there’s mountains of publications and data on Covid. Which publication did they read?

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    21 days ago

    Tell them that you’re a sheeple, and got the safe dose of the vaccine, since they want to keep the compliant people around. Tell them it’s too bad they’re on “the list” of bad people.

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    21 days ago

    Ask them questions. Have them explain how, why. When you find contradictions or confusion, ask how they resolve them.

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    Not everything requires a response and at some point you have to pick your battles. They have revealed to you that they are an idiot. It is not your job to fix them.

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    I generally reframe it from a perspective even they think they understand: Money.

    Governments want their money. Less Population = Less Taxes for them to take, ergo, no government is trying to lower their population. And do they, the audience, think that the government is willing to have less money?

    I don’t think so!

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    This is an easy one:

    source

    Ask them to point to the depopulation occurring.

    On the graph the fuzzy dot is on June 2021 which was around the time that vaccines were in full availability. According to their logic we should see a decline occurring from the “depopulation” occurring from COVID vaccines. Where is that decline?

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      The growth rate is a better chart for that, because you can see the population growth drastically diminishing (because more deaths = less grow) until vaccines where made available and then it immediately goes back to normal. If someone wanted to depopulate all they had to do was prevent the vaccines from reaching people or have people not take the vaccine.

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    21 days ago

    Tell them that’s completely true, and that if they keeps spreading the truth the black vans will come for them, they know to much.

    The birds have already heard the rumors, and the clock if ticking. They better do something and shut up before they end un in “the facility”.