I posted a good faith post about the angry posts coming out of WomensStuff, knowing I was breaking the community’s rules but it was a meta discussion about that rule itself. I guess I wasn’t going to be shocked to be banned there, but again, this was a good faith post that wasn’t trolling. Lots of men were chiming in about the subject itself.

I wake up to find I’ve been banned across multiple communities and servers, because the mods have updated to say, “My blood pressure too high rn.”

Is this was Lemmy actually is? Worse than Reddit because the rules are “fuzzy” and every mod can do whatever they want, because they’re having a bad day?

    • turtlesareneat@discuss.onlineOPEnglish
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      25 days ago

      I told them their “MEN DON’T POST HERE” posts on the frontpage are hostile, which is the reaction they got from a half dozen folks who were talking about the subject. I talked about my experience as a gay man, wanting more community here on Lemmy, but that I wouldn’t start communities or threads saying “NO STRAIGHT PEOPLE POST HERE” to do it. And I pointed out their community has decided there are only two ways to deal with it.

      I get that I broke their rule, and I can be banned there for that - but they didn’t ban me for being a man, they banned me for hurting their feelings.

      And now I can’t use LGBTQ and Trans communities as a result. OK, fuck turtlesareneat, he shouldn’t be allowed in queer communities cause he hurt a mod’s feelings.

      • stinerman@midwest.socialEnglish
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        24 days ago

        I told them their “MEN DON’T POST HERE” posts on the frontpage are hostile, which is the reaction they got from a half dozen folks who were talking about the subject.

        So what if it’s hostile to you? It’s their community. I see that community from time to time. Guess what. I don’t post there. I accept that it’s their space and their rules.

        I talked about my experience as a gay man, wanting more community here on Lemmy, but that I wouldn’t start communities or threads saying “NO STRAIGHT PEOPLE POST HERE” to do it.

        You don’t have to, but other people can if they want. If someone else did, I, as a straight person, wouldn’t post there. Because they asked me not to.

        I get that I broke their rule, and I can be banned there for that - but they didn’t ban me for being a man, they banned me for hurting their feelings. And now I can’t use LGBTQ and Trans communities as a result. OK, fuck turtlesareneat, he shouldn’t be allowed in queer communities cause he hurt a mod’s feelings.

        No, you didn’t get banned because you hurt their feelings. You got banned because you can’t follow rules. Other instances banned you because you’ve been shown that you can’t follow other instances’ rules.

        This reads very heavily of “but I had to reply because they needed to hear my carefully-considered opinion.” NO. THEY. DON’T. They didn’t want to talk to you and you decided to barge in and tell them what you had to say because by god you needed to be heard.

      • Spider Jerusalem@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        25 days ago

        If you don’t like or don’t want to see communities that don’t want you to participate, block them and move on. Whether or not they’re right isn’t really important if they’ve made it clear you’re unwelcome, doubly so if you’re going against their own rules. Appeal the others later, if that’s important to you.

      • CaptainBasculin@lemmy.bascul.inEnglish
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        25 days ago

        specific communities can have their own rules so while a ban on that community is fair, using it to ban on unrelated communities is not. Definetly a PTB

  • hedgehog@ttrpg.networkEnglish
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    25 days ago

    Your comment wasn’t in a meta discussion; it was on a post where they were venting about people complaining about them having a women’s only space. There was certainly no indication that the regular community rules didn’t apply, nor any invitation for men to comment.

    Commenting that it’s hostile for them to have a women’s only space might be ironic, but couldn’t possibly be good faith, in that context. And if the same mod banned you from multiple communities, then either it was out of line and you could appeal it, or it was warranted due to the perceived likelihood of you causing problems in those other communities and the perceived low likelihood of you contributing anything of value to them.

    Even now, you’re acting like the mod(s) banned you because of her / their emotions. You don’t see how that’s misogynistic?

    It makes logical sense for bad actors to be preemptively banned. Emotions have nothing to do with it.

    • MountingSuspicion@reddthat.comEnglish
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      25 days ago

      Thank you so much for providing that context. It is so funny that they said that their original post is in good faith, when even this post describing the situation isn’t in good faith.

  • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
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    25 days ago

    No leg to stand on if you aren’t providing the proof of what you said. We’re forced to side with the mod unless you can prove what you said wasn’t worth removing.

  • MountingSuspicion@reddthat.comEnglish
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    25 days ago

    So you broke rules on purpose in a community for people who experience oppression and are upset when other communities have solidarity with that community and don’t want people who break rules on purpose in their space. Just because other people break rules doesn’t mean you should. Posting while knowingly breaking rules is not actually posting in good faith.

    The rules aren’t fuzzy. These mods are trying to protect spaces for vulnerable people and see that you don’t respect those spaces. Seems pretty cut and dry. If you don’t like the way those communities are run, make your own.