• CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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    1 month ago

    I guess the idea behind a “measles party” is to introduce the virus to the child’s immune system so that they can develop antibodies for it?

    Damn, if only there was a safer way. Like if a doctor could introduce a very small amount of the virus to the child’s immune system. Do you think a dead virus would be enough for the immune system to learn what it is and how to fight it? Why aren’t scientists working on this?!

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      1 month ago

      Just a small akshually : Viruses cant be dead or alive because the have no metabolism anyway so most (modern) vaccines work by extracting their mrna or the lipids on their surface and injecting that. Injecting a small portion of whole viruses my still infect you. Fyi

      Edit: ok I talked some garbage here: while viruses do not have a metabolism and thereby are, by the definition of some, not alive, there is apparently a way to make vaccines by destroying the genome of the virus via heat or chemicals and using the “shells” to make vaccines…

      Source (disclosure: website owned by vaccine producer) here

  • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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    mortality rate of 3% for unvaccinated kids.

    gonna be a lot of depression-era grieving going on.

    • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
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      3 percent of kids dead is a small price to pay for Texans to not have to reevaluate how they make decisions.

  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    We are careening toward the “end-game” for the rampant anti-intellectualism, anti-science, anti-critical thinking mind virus that plagued this country for at least the past 80 years.

    This is what happens when you condition people for nearly a century, to get angry and defensive when someone who’s more versed on a subject tries to teach them something (or god forbid, correct them). It has become a kneejerk reaction for so many Americans (mostly conservatives). They are so insecure that they view any type of education as a direct insult to them or some stupid bullshit like that. Like deep down, they know how ignorant they are, but for some reason they’d prefer to stay that way, so anyone who challenges that (regardless of how pure the motive), is a “smug piece of shit talking down to them.”

    And instead of even retaining what the person said, let alone learning it, they become even more radicalized against… well, reality.

    I truly have no idea how something like this can ever be fixed at this level. We’re talking over 50 million people give or take tens of millions (unsure how many have regrets).

    And this is nation-ending shit.

    Edit: Slightly related, but something I just thought about… Imagine if we ever have a prion-based pandemic (if that’s possible?). That could straight up be the end of humankind. Prions are terrifying.

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      This is what happens when you construct a society around screwing everyone else over while preaching cooperation. People stop trusting everything

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      It’s a simple problem, the lack of trust; and a relatively simple fix.

      But you will have to abandon liberalism, capitalism, and all such tools of the rich that only exist to oppress the poor. While those systems of oppression exist, anti intellectualism is a natural defense mechanism.

      There’s a reason black folks in the US tend not to trust doctors, a good one, one of the best. It’s the same reason native Americans tend not to trust the law, immigrants tend not to call police even if they’re legal, and smart poor people don’t trust vaccines. It’s all the same reason, all the same cause, even with different incidents from that cause.

      And you can’t fight it and keep the systems that spawned it, it is impossible.

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      Don’t forget the “liberal” (closed minded in their own way) hippie types who think cancer can be cured with some magic herb or something. They are just as likely to be against vaccines and science in general. I know too many of these people.

      They are so insecure that they view any type of education as a direct insult to them or some stupid bullshit like that. Like deep down, they know how ignorant they are

      They know deep down inside that they are dumb and uneducated but think their “instincts” and gut feelings are equivalent or better than years of studying and analytical thought. They also are jealous of people smarter than them and instead of raising themselves up they prefer to pull them down.

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        True, forgot about Cruetzfeldt-Jacob.

        Also, think that one in Africa that happened because the natives in the area had a tradition of eating the brains of their dead loved ones, was also a prion. I want to say Kuru? Koru?

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    Measles parties is the stupidest thing I heard. It is not chickenpox (although even chickenpox instead of vaccine causes risk of having shingles once you get older), it can cause serious health issues and even death.

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      I’m just gonna say, I got lucky with where my shingles hit and it suuucked. It was just my side. I have a friend who got out across their face. I got very lucky.

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        Neck for me. They got the paperwork ready to see an eye specialist if there’s any sign that it might reach my eyes. Luckily didn’t.

  • Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
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    Ya know when Conservatives died of Covid in massive numbers because they kept refusing to intentionally antagonize the people fighting Covid and every restriction put in place against it the only thing going through my head was

    “I hope enough of them kicked the bucket to make Republicans unelectable so that tragedies like this can’t happen again.”

    Guess what’s going through my head now?

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      I’m sad that it’s children paying the price though. They don’t have any say in anything. It’s child abuse to intentionally infect them with a preventable disease.

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          If only we stopped Miss Teacherlady from showing little Billy that Rainbow Flag, then maybe God would have loved him enough to save him from the Communist Measles… sigh

          Seriously, there’s nothing wrong with having a religion (Despite what r/Atheism thinks), the problem is when you think it’s the answer to every question.

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            Its a matter of priority. People read horoscopes all the time, very common thing. Most people won’t put that “advice” in their top 10 reasons to do anything. Religion is bad when its priority #1, whether thats for a person or a whole country. Myths and folklore are the more appropriate versions of religion.

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    When I was growing up in India I believed that I was surrounded by the dumbest and most ignorant people on earth, then I moved to the US for a while and was surprised most people remembered to breathe.

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      The unvax’d population in India is greater than the population of the United States. Unfortunately, only 90% of the US is vax’d against measles, which is a staggering number in and of itself, but I’m not sure of the demographic breakdown of it.

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        Yeah but the unvaxxed population in India are literally living in shacks with dirt floors and can barely read but the unvaxxed population in the US choose this because of facebook posts