And it seems karmacourt will be the first to posit that the fediverse is worth “putting in its place”, going by the upvotes in such an empty community that probably discourages those kinds of suits.
Context for those unaware:
“A friend of mine” OP is referring to Call Me Leni, who was banned from several instances and communities for being a KiwiFarms member, among other things, and OP has a grudge against the Fediverse for this. Leni shouldn’t have linked their KiwiFarms posts on Lemmy, and linked Lemmy threads talking about them on their KiwiFarms account. That wasn’t very bright of them.
Call me Leni also defended KiwiFarms as a “free speech” site and tried to conflate the hate site with Discord:
I take it OP feels like the Fediverse is violating “free speech” for banning KiwiFarms members.
I’m not her. We went over this in my last post you visited. You are just stalking at this point. What grudge do you have against me anyways? Is it not clear we are talking about a common subject?
As for the rest, anyone can click a link within a link.
This is fucking hysterical. You realize the person you’re replying to didn’t say you were Call Me Leni? You denying it without accusation like that is uh… not a great look!
This shit’s hilarious. They’re so deep in the “just asking for a friend” trope, that they get defensive pre-emptively, therefore giving up the game.
I will say for sure, Leni sure does a lot of random “friends” who routinely pop up on the same social media she hangs out in, to defend her with a massive amount of insider knowledge. I barely get my friends to even look at memes on fediverse I sent them :D. Leni has the most obsessive and dedicated “friends” in the world, I’ll tell ya.
It is way, way past my bedtime, and my meds wore off, so out of curiosity I clicked through to the link on Reddit again and…
Yeah there’s no way that the user who submitted this to ‘court’ isn’t the same fucking person. I’m going to quote a post they made to /r/Lemmy. I don’t recommend trying to read it, but if you do… yeah they’re all the same person. I’m done playing nice about it. See if this doesn’t read in the exact same terrible, unreadable way:
"For those of you who don’t know, there was an act of terror that was on the news a few days ago where the perpetrator happened to be a Lemmy World mod, and everyone is talking about it due to this (and then another act of terror that happened in the same span of time where the perpetrator wasn’t a mod but where the guy expressed support for a certain guy Lemmy loves loud and clear, which one might say makes site morals look bad). The site has been known to ban anyone who supports Musk’s rhetoric as well as anyone who is registered with KF as many will always be willing to being up for ages, but what about this new evolving rhetoric? Trump is in office and just barely saved Tiktok.
On behalf of a few instances, I have been asked if you all might defederate Lemmy World, even though I have been hesitant until now to even bring it up. To me at least, I’m sure most people are going to say “apologists > murderers” as would make sense."
First of all, no one is asking this individual to represent their instance, let alone a few instances. Second, the top comment to that is literally identical to the top comments on almost everything this person writes:
“I’m confused as what you’re trying to say. I tried to follow the links, but that didn’t make it clearer, either.”
Godspeed, /u/triangularRectum420. You represent us all today.
And CraigOhMyEggo copped a ban from Santabot on slrpnk for being an alt of Leni. That’s enough for me.
The solarpunk bot banned me for a DM. None of us here are one person. If this is you playing nice, I’d be curious to know what your mean side looks like.
and OP has a grudge against the Fediverse for this.
I take it OP feels like the Fediverse is violating “free speech” for banning KiwiFarms members.
Uh, yes he did. And he has made that accusation in the past.
I don’t care about an accusation made in the past. I was responding to you denying an accusation that wasn’t made in this post. You were denying it without accusation here. You can’t, and shouldn’t, expect the readers in this thread to be aware of any conversations you’ve had in the post, and if you’re going to defend against those, it should either be made clear that they weren’t made here, or you should defend against those comments where they were made.
Because, in absence of that claim here, as I said, you’re defending against an accusation that wasn’t made here.
Simple comprehension error. Someone corrected me. Not even the point.
The solarpunk bot banned me for a DM.
Love the petty bullshit of all your replies to me telling you off, which were correct, including links to the same comment where someone says I could’ve made my point clearer.
Congrats. You found one person who says your reading comprehension might be understandable, out of the entirety of the rest of the commenters here, who all tell you to stop with your bullshit crusade… and your reaction is to passive-aggressively try and shoehorn their one comment into every single other thing you reply to me with.
I’m going to tell you, even though you refuse to listen- “engagement” isn’t a metric of success. If 300 people tell you to shut up, that isn’t 300 new friends. That’s “you are wrong,” writ large. And since you don’t understand this either, on any of these other posts you make- people stopping replying to you also doesn’t somehow make your points true. It just means you’re more exhausting than entertaining.
This is to just to say, I’m done here. I’m going to go back to blissfully ignoring you until your next bullshit move to try and defend Leni, at which point I’ll probably link whatever new folks are stumbling on your ongoing nonsense to this thread. Or any others. Goodbye. Enjoy your meaningless reply. I won’t be answering it.
If “engagement” isn’t a metric of success, why do you maintain the numbers of people telling me to shut up is a metric of the need to be quiet? Especially when my only intent here was to share something I thought would fit the community, not to “crusade”? If 95% of the people in dbzer0 are those who will feel angst over every little thing, by your logic, does that make it a bad community? Because I can see through yours.
Your reading comprehension is shit. He did not accuse you of being the leni person. Reread what he wrote.
Why did I know it was Lenislop before I even opened the link?
[Sorry for the double comment]
Disclaimers: I’m aware that I might have an incomplete picture of the situation. As such take what I say with a grain of salt, and do call me out if I say something that is bullshit. Also, I’d rather not take intentions into account.
With that out of the way: Kiwi Farms is a cesspool, and I think that Leni should take this whole situation as a wake up call.
That site doesn’t just “happen” to contain harassment; it exists for harassment, even if Leni claims otherwise. It is not for “an angle of freedom of speech”. And even if she’s just there for some popcorn, or to discuss random stuff, clowns only perform where there’s an audience clapping and laughing at their stunts. I don’t know if she actively harassed someone, but she’s still condoning it. It’s still bad.
And, like, I know popcorn is fun, but this sort of site is better treated as “don’t touch it”. GIF related:
[I’m posting this to lighten the mood.]And linking the Fediverse in KF is even worse. The Fediverse hosts lots of disempowered people, often from marginalised groups. Linking it there is the same as saying “hey guys! Here’s a barn full of lolcows!”. Don’t - those people have enough shit to deal with, you’re only making it worse for them.
So, while I personally don’t hold any strong opinion for/against Leni, I do think those instance admins did the right thing - they’re protecting their users.
And literally no one gave a single shit
Someone must’ve considering the engagement for it.
C-SPAN in the middle of the night when Congress isn’t in session gets more engagement than that post.
Why do we give a shit what a bunch of losers with too much time on their hands on a shithole site think lmao
Also, if you keep getting banned from communities “for no good reason,“ I got some unfortunate news for you…
It does happen. Usually in the case of peer pressure, but it does. For the same reason we have PR disasters in more mainstream politics, like the fact nobody recognizes Taiwan. It’s anti-incentivized.
It’s why I left Reddit.
Why do we give a shit what a bunch of losers with too much time on their hands on a shithole site think lmao
Because it’s free popcorn! 🍿🍿🍿
Fair
always seems like the same gaggle of drama-generating users…
It says something though they’re all still on their first accounts.
Chinese whispers
Well that’s a new term for me. Sounds… Wildly racist lol
Chinese Whispers isn’t literally Chinese whispers. It’s the name of a game kids play in school. Kids line up, then whisper something in the next kid’s ear to pass it along, and once it reaches the last kid, it is spoken out loud to see how much it evolved.
I think here it’s being a metaphor for hearsay.
[Completely off-topic] Where I live this game is known as “wireless phone” (telefone sem fio). Now thinking, it’s kind of weird how the name is still there, in a world full of cell phones.
a game of Chinese whispers
Most people would have called it “Telephone.”
I only know it as the “broken telephone”
That’s what I was thinking.
OP is referring to the KiwiFarms user Call Me Leni. https://lemmy.wtf/post/22238310/14899370
Was there ever a question about that?
The fact that they’re suing “the Fediverse” as if it was a monolithic entity is real funny.
It’s amazing how Redditors can always find a new reason to make me feel embarrassed that I ever browsed the site
I wonder what they’re thinking by mass-upvoting the lawsuit too. Either they’re in the wrong or we’re in the wrong.
I mean it has eight karma. Is this really that big of a deal?
In that particular dead community, yes.
OK… But I feel like when you say “mass up voting“ it implies there are like hundreds if not thousands of people engaging in this discussion. This community probably comprises 50% of the people talking about it. This doesn’t matter at all.
Sorry, I was trying to imply that somehow a dead relic of Reddit was able to partially come back to life just to show in all their Redditness that they stand by her.
Dude I don’t know How else to say they clearly don’t give a shit and neither should we. There are like 30 people in the world who are even thinking about this right now and I’m embarrassed to be among them. Just move on
The complaint is regarding a known sock puppeter. Those votes are almost certainly all from the same person. And even if not, then those other accounts who write just like her but only because they ‘collaboratively compose their messages’ could be doing the upvoting.
What time does the narwhal bacon?
Someone give him gold!
EDIT: I SAID HIM, NOT ME, BUT THANKS FOR THE GOLD KIND STRANGER!
The logic probably is that they were banned from most of it due to instances asking it from one another, so they might as well.
Yeah, the whole point of the Fediverse is it’s decentralized. Each instance has its own independent administrators so if you come across an instance you don’t like, you can just post to another one. Lemmy isn’t just one site but hundreds of sites that communicate together.
May I ask then (since you seem to be known for going around bragging about the person in question seemingly being banned from all these different places), why even brag that if you say here that the whole point of the fediverse being the fediverse is that it’s not a “ban” in the same way as a Reddit ban? You keep saying Leni has alts and is supposedly ban evading. Now what you’re saying undermines those words, “ban evading”.
I have a friend of a friend that said you’re an alt of Leni.
It’s not me though, it’s a real friend that exists.
