• Flyberius [comrade/them]@hexbear.netBanned from community
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    Let’s be honest, they were hardly going to leave their nuclear submarine bases in the hands of a hostile government, were they…

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        Because they weren’t based in a country trying to join NATO during those 30 years. Until the maiden coup they were very close.

        Imagine if China managed to orchestrate a coup in Scotland. Do you expect the British wouldn’t attempt to secure their nuclear submarine bases on the coast near Glasgow?

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          Ukraine has been working towards closer ties with the EU since the fall of the Soviet Union…and made its first official request to join NATO in 2008. None of this is new.

          They were on the brink of signing a comprehensive trade agreement with the EU, which had already been ratified by their parliament, when Yanukovych 180’d on the deal, after pretending to support it in order to get elected.

          That is what got him ousted. As soon as Ukrainians realized he was not working in their best interests, they took to the streets demanding his resignation.

          There was no outside influence, other than Russia working to undermine the deal Ukraine had spent the better part of a decade negotiating. And when their plan to sabotage that deal fell through…they annexed Crimea and funded an insurgency in Eastern Ukraine. And when progress stalled in their efforts to take even more land…they invaded.

          Russia has been interfering in Ukraine’s sovereignty for decades. Not the US. Russia.