I’m wondering if I should just delete lemmy to stay under the radar. 🤔 (I’m a US Citizen currently residing in the US, and moving out of the country is not really an option)

I feel so conflicted on this. On one hand, this is kinda like giving in to authoritarianism, but on the other hand, dissenting is kinda dangerous. 😓

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    Listen at some point its time to realize you dont give a fuck about their threats, accept death as a possibility, and keep to your principles.

    Like that man who stood in front of the tank during Tiananmen Square protests of 1989.

    Im pretty sure were headed into such an event locally.

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      Like that man who stood in front of the tank during Tiananmen Square protests of 1989.

      The guy didn’t die immediately. If you watch the full video, he was taken away by plainclothe police. Probabaly got disappeared and tortured. 😖

      Torture is the most scary part of it.

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    it’s pretty stupid and delusional to think you’re going to jail for posting things on social media. I’m countries where this actually happens (mine for example) you need to be stirring up some viral controversy which directly effects an interest of the government

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      This analysis is proper and Americans love hyperbolic bullshit…

      The trend is concerning nonetheless

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      People are getting turned away at the border for having tweets critical to Donald trump (terrorism for some reason). It’s only a matter of time before they start making lists of people inside the states as well.

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    yeah, I’ve been wondering how much I should be sharing about my political opinions now… and a little concerned about my 15+ years of social media history.

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      NSA Utah Datacenter has been online since May 2014 and has been sucking down the entire contents of the internet since then…

      …so yeah.

      Better to just embrace it and be ready for when they come for us, probably.

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        side note, if you are really fed up with this news cycle, you could take up a new hobby.

        drones are crazy fast these days, and cheap to make, and there are SO many ways to build them now. they come with so mant different attachments, especially in the states. you could attach all kinds of crazy things to them. like nerf guns, and paintball guns and do all kinds of fun activities with lots of friends

        also i hear the area around mar a lago is beautiful to vacation in, it would be great to get some birds eye view footage of that place. just for fun with a bunch of your friends

        i hear also about how good drones are at stabalizing for long distance shots on video these days. you could fly them so high up you could barely see them or hear them from the ground.

        some people even use them to drop small, or large packages from the air as well. just be careful they dont land on anyone important

        that would be aweful…eh?

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    First of all, they won’t arrest everyone. Even extreme governments on the tail end of their horrible leadership don’t arrest everyone. They need some citizens to be there working jobs. Rather, they would aim to arrest enough people to scare everyone else and then some other people randomly just for the hell of it.

    But if you think staying under the radar is going to make your life better, maybe you should read some history books. Who do you think is coming to save you? Who do you think is coming to make your community better? When do you think they’re going to arrive? Outside forces will not fix contemporary US political problems. It doesn’t work that way, not when everyone has armies and nuclear weapons.

    Sadly, quite possibly things could get far worse before they get better, so if you want to plan for some unfortunate eventualities, that might be a reasonable decision. But don’t think for a second you can run from them. And even if you could, what kind of human would that make you? What kind of person do you want to be?

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      Yeah they’ll arrest at random and show the brazen cruel incompetent inconsistency of the law. (I live in a country that does this).

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    The entire country would collapse if they did that. There would nothing to be president of.

    Not to mention Jon Stewart, Jon Oliver, and the many other celebrities that shit on Trump. Plus all of MSNBC, CNN, and the other “left” news companies. I don’t imagine they have resources to do all that.

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      The trick is not to arrest most if the really high profile individuals who are critical of the state, but encourage rumours about why they’ve been spared to discredit them.

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      There was this news report about a french scientist being denied entry to USA, because they critiqued the science budget cuts. While not arrested or something, it’s still telling.

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      I mean, its hard to calm down after reading the news about Mahmoud Khalil. Sure, online comments is not the same as a protest, but I feel like its only a matter of time before they start digging through the internet.

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        Consider this: Like the “Storm Area 51” meme where they said “they can’t arrest all of us!” if all of us keep dissenting and never stop, well… they can’t arrest all of us.

        Literally 45 million people are registered Democrats, and while the USA has the largest prison population per capita, that tops out at 2 million. There’s about 1.5 million Law Enforcement Officers in the USA. The US military is about 3 million people, and a bunch of them are stationed worldwide, not here at home.

        So tops they could have 4.5 million people trying to arrest/disappear 45 million people.

        I repeat, they cannot arrest all of us.

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        Nobody said that doing what’s right would be easy. Or safe. Only that it’s worth doing.

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        At that point, there will be no evidence of your disappearance, so legal details don’t even matter. Anyone who brings up such evidence, will also disappear.

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    Well, if I know my lore, the fediverse, Lemmy included, was created by self avowed communists.

    And if the Luigi shenanigans, that is to say the censorship brought to bear on any discussion of the man or his alleged crime, have shown us anything; it’s that the powers that be very much fear a class war. Besides wich commies have long been a favorite windmill to tilt at.

    I think it’s safe to assume anything posted on here gets logged and analyzed.

    That having been said, eat the rich, free Palestine, and healthcare for all!!

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    My solution is to VPN everything out of country. Not a single packet exits without going through a double hop VPN, with both hops being outside the Fourteen Eyes.

    On top of that I run an ad/tracking blocking DNS server that’s updated pretty frequently.

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    Would be fun to see the US turn into full dictatorship, but we wont see that. They have too much to lose to be openly hostile to citizens speaking their mind, specially online where it doesnt even matter.

    If a big public figure starts saying uncomfortable truths to the media and they have a big following, then maybe Trump will try and contain that somehow, but you and me online? We dont matter.

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    Every single person who disagrees with the administration on the internet? Incredibly unlikely. That’d be literally 10s of millions of people, if not over 100 million. The US prison system currently has a capacity of ~2 million. It’s estimated that globally there are ~11.5 million people in prisons. So you’re talking about locking up several times more people than are currently locked up. It’s just not possible.

    The scale of what you’re suggesting is just unimaginable. How much manpower would be needed to lock up tens of millions of people? Nearly the entire non-incarcerated population of the US would need to be employed in building and staffing prisons and doing the police work to track down and arrest people.

    And what would that do to the US (and global) economy to remove tens of millions of people from the workforce and force the rest of the population into servicing those prisons?

    Even in the strictest countries with the most draconian censorship, they don’t lock up people who are just disagreeing with the dictator/administration. They lock up people who make a name for themselves and get recognition/go viral. If you have an account that gets a HUGE following and you don’t just disagree, but attack and criticize, then you might end up with some problems.

    To avoid this, just don’t let yourself get a big following with an account that’s super critical. If you notice you start to get a following, just delete that account and start a new one.

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        Small camps, yes. Camps with enough facilities to hold several times more than the current global population? No, not at all.

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          Yeah that’s why you start killing people in the camps yo free space for the new arrivals…

          I swear we already went through this before

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            I really think you’re underestimating the scale of every single person who’s critical of Trump. The Holocaust killed like 6 million people/year. We’re talking about an order of magnitude more people than that.

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    I have the RIGHT to freedom of speech and expression and I will not waive it for Trump or anyone else. Without it, there is no United States.

    Fuck Donald Trump. Fuck Elon Musk. Fuck the Republicans. Fuck the oligarchy. Fuck authoritarianism. Fuck this fear, and fuck advance compliance.

    I serve no fucking king.

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    @IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol I don’t think you need to delete the account.
    Just create another account and only log in to it via VPN, i2p or TOR. It’s Fediverse, you can have multiple accounts with different content. And don’t write anything private on the second (3,4,5…) account that can help in your identification.

    And in general, showing the middle finger to surveillance systems it’s simply rule of good tone on the modern internet. 😀

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    There is so much content going online, and so much traffic, plus heightened security measures, that make it very hard to identify dissidents on a large scale, at least with the tech we have, without using searches and seizure of one’s devices or other methods unrelated to the Internet itself.

    In other words, very hard to impossible.