Incels scorn society and the world for making them ugly, no powerful jawline, no American Pie sex adventures in high school, and no nice suits to wear to their minimum wage jobs. To incels, they are the forgotten scum of the earth.
Well, The Joker is a film about an abused, poor, and lonely comedian getting his face kicked in by teenagers about a month before rising up, killing a late night tv host, and vengefully breaking Society down into chaos and misery.
So, they just think The Joker makes them look cool. That’s really it. Every time they think about shooting up an elementary school, they also think about Arthur Fleck gunning down Murray Franklin.
The movie itself isn’t a problem, But the kind of person that fancies the joker and Thanos *as role models are. It’s one thing to appreciate the dark side it’s another to idolize it.
Honestly I am somewhat confused too. I think the joker movie joker is kinda incel ref because he is kinda an incel and kinda hates women (I don’t remember the movie too well)
That seems to be the dark knight joker tho. So idk.
And honestly dark knight joker is amazing. Like I like the movie because the joker is a great villain in this movie.
I think even calling Phoenix’s Joker incel is bit of a stretch. I’ve also only seen it long ago in theater, but I recall there was only a small part his imagined romance but it was only small contributor or result of his mental issues, and his hate was more so on the people abusing him, didn’t really strike me as a woman hating incel in any way
This is correct but if you check the media coverage (even before the movie came out) there was def this narrative being pushed. I think it’s because libs were uncomfortable with how the movie portrayed class struggle so they latched onto this aspect
I am not arguing that he is and I don’t think the people calling it a incel ref are saying that he is. I think they are saying that he is weirdly deli about a woman and is popular with a lot of incels because he is relatable for them. (Hating society is a way and kinda delulu about women)
Yeah, but again. I think the people that see joker was a incel ref, aren’t necessarily saying that joker is an incel, but rather that incels like joker.
I didn’t enjoy the joker movie, I don’t intend to argue about the movie but to provide my understanding of the why.
Yea, the Heath Ledger joker is better, though that’s a damn high bar. I just wish the sequel would’ve properly developed the new Joker, because they could’ve made it glaringly obvious how idolizing or immitating him in any way is a bad, dumb idea. Instead they made the lamest movie of 2024.
a bit strange but I don’t really see the problem tbh. Are these references I’m not getting? I recognize joker and thanos.
The Thanos poster has been “alpha-male”-ified and the joker is a cringe incel reference. The fact you don’t know is a good thing.
How is the joker an incel reference? Great movie
Incels scorn society and the world for making them ugly, no powerful jawline, no American Pie sex adventures in high school, and no nice suits to wear to their minimum wage jobs. To incels, they are the forgotten scum of the earth.
Well, The Joker is a film about an abused, poor, and lonely comedian getting his face kicked in by teenagers about a month before rising up, killing a late night tv host, and vengefully breaking Society down into chaos and misery.
So, they just think The Joker makes them look cool. That’s really it. Every time they think about shooting up an elementary school, they also think about Arthur Fleck gunning down Murray Franklin.
Alright
The truth being somewhere in-between.
Full npc vs full crash out antihero
The movie itself isn’t a problem, But the kind of person that fancies the joker and Thanos *as role models are. It’s one thing to appreciate the dark side it’s another to idolize it.
The movies aren’t the problem.
How is joker an incel reference? O.o
He’s one of those pseudo icons or idols of weird guys who think being edgy or “deranged” is cool.
Honestly I am somewhat confused too. I think the joker movie joker is kinda incel ref because he is kinda an incel and kinda hates women (I don’t remember the movie too well)
That seems to be the dark knight joker tho. So idk.
And honestly dark knight joker is amazing. Like I like the movie because the joker is a great villain in this movie.
I think even calling Phoenix’s Joker incel is bit of a stretch. I’ve also only seen it long ago in theater, but I recall there was only a small part his imagined romance but it was only small contributor or result of his mental issues, and his hate was more so on the people abusing him, didn’t really strike me as a woman hating incel in any way
This is correct but if you check the media coverage (even before the movie came out) there was def this narrative being pushed. I think it’s because libs were uncomfortable with how the movie portrayed class struggle so they latched onto this aspect
I am not arguing that he is and I don’t think the people calling it a incel ref are saying that he is. I think they are saying that he is weirdly deli about a woman and is popular with a lot of incels because he is relatable for them. (Hating society is a way and kinda delulu about women)
Also I want to repeat, I might misremember stuff.
I don’t think the joker hated women at all in Joker. As far as I remember his attitude to both genders is the same.
Maybe I misremember but he was kinda delulu about a woman, no?
He was delusional about many things. It was an entire character trait. He fantasized about telling good jokes, too.
Yeah, but again. I think the people that see joker was a incel ref, aren’t necessarily saying that joker is an incel, but rather that incels like joker.
I didn’t enjoy the joker movie, I don’t intend to argue about the movie but to provide my understanding of the why.
And my joker is Heath ledger, anyway.
Yea, the Heath Ledger joker is better, though that’s a damn high bar. I just wish the sequel would’ve properly developed the new Joker, because they could’ve made it glaringly obvious how idolizing or immitating him in any way is a bad, dumb idea. Instead they made the lamest movie of 2024.
Are you typing delulu because you can’t spell delusional? Or is this a new cool trendy thing I’m too old to know about?
Neither. It was a new cool trendy thing.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/delulu
Thanks, I’m often too old to know the cool new thing.
I appreciate it and look forward to using it in the future.
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Yeah, I’m not really into comics that are only funny to people who are terminally online.
How so? The crown and gown?
The text behind him in the poster.
The crown and gown just make him look like Biggie.