Honestly I am somewhat confused too. I think the joker movie joker is kinda incel ref because he is kinda an incel and kinda hates women (I don’t remember the movie too well)
That seems to be the dark knight joker tho. So idk.
And honestly dark knight joker is amazing. Like I like the movie because the joker is a great villain in this movie.
I think even calling Phoenix’s Joker incel is bit of a stretch. I’ve also only seen it long ago in theater, but I recall there was only a small part his imagined romance but it was only small contributor or result of his mental issues, and his hate was more so on the people abusing him, didn’t really strike me as a woman hating incel in any way
This is correct but if you check the media coverage (even before the movie came out) there was def this narrative being pushed. I think it’s because libs were uncomfortable with how the movie portrayed class struggle so they latched onto this aspect
I am not arguing that he is and I don’t think the people calling it a incel ref are saying that he is. I think they are saying that he is weirdly deli about a woman and is popular with a lot of incels because he is relatable for them. (Hating society is a way and kinda delulu about women)
Yeah, but again. I think the people that see joker was a incel ref, aren’t necessarily saying that joker is an incel, but rather that incels like joker.
I didn’t enjoy the joker movie, I don’t intend to argue about the movie but to provide my understanding of the why.
Yea, the Heath Ledger joker is better, though that’s a damn high bar. I just wish the sequel would’ve properly developed the new Joker, because they could’ve made it glaringly obvious how idolizing or immitating him in any way is a bad, dumb idea. Instead they made the lamest movie of 2024.
Honestly I am somewhat confused too. I think the joker movie joker is kinda incel ref because he is kinda an incel and kinda hates women (I don’t remember the movie too well)
That seems to be the dark knight joker tho. So idk.
And honestly dark knight joker is amazing. Like I like the movie because the joker is a great villain in this movie.
I think even calling Phoenix’s Joker incel is bit of a stretch. I’ve also only seen it long ago in theater, but I recall there was only a small part his imagined romance but it was only small contributor or result of his mental issues, and his hate was more so on the people abusing him, didn’t really strike me as a woman hating incel in any way
This is correct but if you check the media coverage (even before the movie came out) there was def this narrative being pushed. I think it’s because libs were uncomfortable with how the movie portrayed class struggle so they latched onto this aspect
I am not arguing that he is and I don’t think the people calling it a incel ref are saying that he is. I think they are saying that he is weirdly deli about a woman and is popular with a lot of incels because he is relatable for them. (Hating society is a way and kinda delulu about women)
Also I want to repeat, I might misremember stuff.
I don’t think the joker hated women at all in Joker. As far as I remember his attitude to both genders is the same.
Maybe I misremember but he was kinda delulu about a woman, no?
He was delusional about many things. It was an entire character trait. He fantasized about telling good jokes, too.
Yeah, but again. I think the people that see joker was a incel ref, aren’t necessarily saying that joker is an incel, but rather that incels like joker.
I didn’t enjoy the joker movie, I don’t intend to argue about the movie but to provide my understanding of the why.
And my joker is Heath ledger, anyway.
Yea, the Heath Ledger joker is better, though that’s a damn high bar. I just wish the sequel would’ve properly developed the new Joker, because they could’ve made it glaringly obvious how idolizing or immitating him in any way is a bad, dumb idea. Instead they made the lamest movie of 2024.
Are you typing delulu because you can’t spell delusional? Or is this a new cool trendy thing I’m too old to know about?
Neither. It was a new cool trendy thing.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/delulu
Thanks, I’m often too old to know the cool new thing.
I appreciate it and look forward to using it in the future.