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  • your argument here is that violence is the answer, then please, tell me how much violence does it take for you to change your core beliefs?

    No reason to force a false dichotomy, I don’t think anyone here is saying that violence is the answer to every problem. Just that sometimes it’s the only appropriate response to people who are themselves willing to do violence.

    how much violence does it take for you to change your core beliefs? Because for me the answer is that no amount is enough. At best it’ll just make me hide them.

    That’s the entire point of fascism. Fascist don’t actually care about actually swaying everyone to their ideology. All they have to do is achieve a monopoly of violence and use it to make sure people are too afraid to stand up to them.

    Now, because I know it doesn’t work on me I thus don’t expect it to work on other people either.

    A confident claim from someone who’s likely never experienced the level violence that can be levied by an oppressive regime.


  • I think that kinda depends on how you view morals and ethics. One could claim that a profession doesn’t define your morality…but I doubt many say that about the Nazi or Isis.

    Now that’s a bit hyperbolic, but it does lend weight to the framework of the argument. Can an individual be “good” and simultaneously be supporting a system or group that is “bad”.

    Now you can wholly reject the notion that the police are bastards, but that would just be a different debate, and likely a futile one. But, it would still be a stronger argument than your original.

    moonlights as both an EMT and a firefighter when she’s not a cop.

    If my day job is working as a corrupt politician, but I moonlight at a homeless shelter…does that cancel each other out? If a person wanted for murder stops a mugging, does he get a get out of jail free card?

    She’s normally a really great person

    I don’t doubt she’s a great person to you and people she cares about, but we’re not really talking about personal relationships.