That is what I think the left has failed at and it kept me as a baby leftist for a while because I would as a question and they would accuse me of being an alt right troll.

I love debating. I especially love debating right wingers because it’s fun and makes the world better. One thing they are better about one of the few things is answering questions ,if you have questions they have answers. I would make fun of them and ask dumb hypothetical and they would still answer

How is that post wrong ?

How is anything I have said wrong.

Thanks I agree and this is a valuable perspective

So funny thing is republicans say the same thing. There is a famous quote ““Conservatism is progressivism driving the speed limit.””

I would argue the left needs to take some responsibility with getting distracted in the culture war and losing site of the working class. Look at Bernie you can go back to 2016 and see people saying that bernie was a bro candidate and not progressive enough compared to hillarly on insert x wedge issue here

I agree that we need to be more technocratic as I think democracy is kind of running it’s course in the world. Maga also has a lot of contradictions to be fair

do you have an actual answer to the question ?

Also even if you disagree with that, that is how they feel and when it comes to votes weather or not how they feel is justified or not doesn’t matter

I am going to be honest, I think women need to be a a part of this. We are used to being right in regards to gender conflict because usually we are but one thing I agree with men on is that every woman says they want men to share their feelings more but many women lose respect for a man they see as weak.

Bell Hooks talks a lot about this so you can go read her.

the issue with that is with less women dating period since less women want to settle. Would that work ?

There just isn’t a gaurentee or even a good enough chance that being a progressive or supporting progressive politics will get you a girlfriend or wife so would this kind of incentive system work ?

If you want the carrot and stick to work you have to give the carrot.

Telling women to just date random progressive guys for the cause even ignoring the fact it’s not ery ethical. I just don’t think you could convince enough women to do it for it to work

None of you got the meme so I will explain it.

The correct answer is the United States of America.

The whole point is that The USA seems to be the least likely as America especially in the cold war was a racist capitalist country so you would think they would love the racist capitalism of apartheid SA but no actually.

Israel with their never again mantra you would think would oppose the White nationalism of SA but their arms partnership of the apartheid government is very well known especially with the nukes.

The Soviet Union and China. That is surprising but no these countries did actually do arms trade with South Africa. The Soviet Union worked with SA for jet engine development and had this complicated scene with SA, the GDR and South America to get guns to them that were on paper sold to other countries. De beers actually had permits to sell Siberian diamonds since they had gotten so good at diamond smuggling. Same with China.

The joke is that everyone will pick either the Soviet Union or China and think the USA armed Apartheid South Africa but no they are the one country on the list to not do so

None of you got the meme so I will explain it.

The correct answer is the United States of America.

The whole point is that The USA seems to be the least likely as America especially in the cold war was a racist capitalist country so you would think they would love the racist capitalism of apartheid SA but no actually.

Israel with their never again mantra you would think would oppose the White nationalism of SA but their arms partnership of the apartheid government is very well known especially with the nukes.

The Soviet Union and China. That is surprising but no these countries did actually do arms trade with South Africa. The Soviet Union worked with SA for jet engine development and had this complicated scene with SA, the GDR and South America to get guns to them that were on paper sold to other countries. De beers actually had permits to sell Siberian diamonds since they had gotten so good at diamond smuggling. Same with China.

the soviet union never had access to the open internet. What existed in the West was ARPANET (1969), which evolved into NSFNET in the mid-1980s the backbone of what would become the internet.