• YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
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    “I want the USA to suffer and die”

    Ftfy. Only one party is actively funded by our enemies and is enacting favorable policies to them.

    • “our enemies” LOL you Americans are so ridiculous. Turn off the TV, you’re just some dope who works for a living, absolutely no one is your enemy except the dictatorship of capital who are represented by political parties in your country and run capitalism.

      Both of your parties carried on illegal wars in my country, toppled the government, left a power vacuum that consumed my family and I still don’t think of you as my enemy.

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      The democrats were committing genocide. GTFO with the “funding our enemies” Ultranationalism.

      You are right about one thing though, I do want the USA to suffer and die, given both sides are fully committed to nationalism and genocide.

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        This was in Canada and we asked people, how much would you pay to clean one lake from acid rain pollution? And we asked other people, how much would you pay to clean up all lakes in Ontario from acid rain pollution? And people gave roughly the same number.

        Point is, the vast majority of people are black and white thinkers. You’re either cleaning pollution, or you’re not. 100% of the party supports cutting off aid to Israel, or they’re all literally committing genocide. You are merely one of the vast majority.

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          What are you talking about? What do lakes in Canada have to do with the fact that the Democratic Party is fully institutionally committed to fully supporting Israel and its extermination campaign?

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              Democrats have several members who have called for ending aid to Israel.

              Like 3 right. so 99% the same. So we’re back to telling people to be ok with just slightly less evil. Whcih was tried in the last election and failed spectacularly.

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                15 Senate Dems vote to cancel billions in Israeli military aid

                There’s 49 senate Democrats, which means 30.6% of Senate Democrats have voted for ending aid to Israel. 0% of Republican senators voted to cancel aid to Israel.

                Furthermore Republicans absolutely love to abuse pro-Palestine people in the worst ways they can, including arresting and deporting pro-Palestine people and cutting off funding for colleges that allow you to protest. I don’t think that’s “slightly less” evil.

                Finally even “slightly less” evil is by definition less evil. Getting in a car crash at 80 MPH is only slightly less likely to kill you than getting in a crash at 90 mph. So what’s the point of hitting the brakes?

                To be honest, to someone who’s observed this conflict for a long time, your side is getting its ass kicked. Israel has taken more land for 8 decades and no one is stopping them as they take more. You need every last advantage if you want to turn the tide. Don’t be lazy, make the necessary distinctions between those who might help you and those who will do whatever a judge will allow them to do to harm you.

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                  Not a bad point. 70% of dem leadership being in support of war crimes in exchange for $ is a lot better than the 100% that the republicans have. Still not great but I’ll take it.

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                  To be honest, to someone who’s observed this conflict for a long time, your side is getting its ass kicked.

                  What is your “side”? Neither the GOP nor the DNC are on my side. They’re on their donors’ sides. On the side of Zionists, the military-industrial complex, and other corporations that benefit from US imperialism & Israeli settler-colonialism.

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      Only one party is actively funded by our enemies

      Incorrect, both parties take money from Wall Street. Only a tiny, tiny minority of the Democrats don’t, and those spoiler Democrats are hated by the DNC far more than the DNC opposes their esteemed Republican opposition.

      If you refuse to see the capitalist oligarchs are the enemy that created the conditions for Trump, then nevermind and carry on, as there’s nothing that ever could convince you.