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davel@lemmy.ml to Privacy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 months ago

JWZ weighs in on Signal again

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JWZ weighs in on Signal again

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davel@lemmy.ml to Privacy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 months ago
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Because of the ongoing fucktastrophe, the cries of "Use SIGNAL!" are constant and unavoidable. And I get it, it may be the least-bad option in a sea of terrible options. If, that is, you choose to ignore the advice of "don't use your phone for that shit" (the Stringer Bell Rule). But out of curiosity, because I haven't been keeping up, has the Signal Corporation addressed: The fact that they ...

JWZ previously:

  • https://www.jwz.org/blog/2018/08/signal/
  • https://www.jwz.org/blog/2017/03/signal-leaks-your-phone-number-to-everyone-in-your-contacts/

See also: Why not Signal?

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    I sure don’t know. SimpleX is suggested, among others: https://dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html#good-alternatives

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      Could you explain/elaborate to a know-nothing (me) on the following from your link?:

      Caveats of federation: Metadata leaking

      When using federation, Matrix’s room states (containing a lot of Metadata) get replicated and stored indefinitely on every homeserver any user connects with or connects to. While this is a feature for enabling distributed chat rooms, it comes at a serious privacy cost.

      To avoid this, you can either disable federation, or make sure that your users signed up with no linkable identifiers other than their user names.

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        The author of that essay (@dessalines@lemmy.ml) is one of the main devs of lemmy, so you’re asking in the right place lmao

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          How…do you think chat systems with storage are supposed to work? They store data. In a database

          What specific fields are shared by matrix but not xmpp?

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        I’ve never looked into how Matrix works at all, so I can’t really speak to that.

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        It is still in early stages but the bones are good.

        I would not advise for people who expect shit to just work.

        Maybe next year. A lot of progress since last time I tried it.

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