Apparently I’m now a shitlib for not buying into this disgusting tankie propaganda that it was all the Wests fault and Stalin had to ally with Hitler.

For a mod who loves to ban others for bad jacketing, they sure have no problem doing it to other anarchists.

The Ban:

The Context:

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    Just because we dunk on tankies here doesn’t mean we approve of white… oops, sorry, I meant to say “western” - civilisation.

    Okay?

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        Hey, don’t slam it… Jewish people became “white enough” for the west as soon as they started slaughtering brown people - which proves that anyone with enough genocidal intent can reach those lofty heights!

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      Western civ like it or not has pulled more people out of poverty than any other civ in human history. It’s hella flawed and it requires guidance to grow and get better but that’s the whole damn point of a civilization.

      You, anarchist, seem to think societies are going to magically swap over to hippie communities and everyone will share everything and be happy to not work ever again. It’s like you assume a home can be built without a foundation. I honestly don’t understand how it’s popular to people over the age of 18.

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        Western civ like it or not

        Yeah, all the shantytowns around these parts with sewage floating through the streets attests to that wonderful statement of yours.

        get better but that’s the whole damn point of a civilization.

        Your precious white… oops, sorry, meant to say “western” again… civilisation has had hundreds of years to stop being a laboratory for horror and deprivation - at this point, it’s perfectly clear that all this is the point.

        It’s like you assume a home can be built without a foundation

        Not like you, huh? With your fancy foundation built on millions of corpses?

        I honestly don’t understand how it’s popular to people over the age of 18.

        Because not everybody over the age of 18 automatically degenerates into a spineless bootlicker - must be news to you, huh?

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          Every society has its horrors. People suck and people who don’t usually aren’t gravitated towards power.

          Please explain how anarchist would magically make those who want to lead for power less likely to do so?

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            Every society has its horrors.

            Not a valid defence - neither does it distract from your ludicrously false statements.

            Please explain

            What makes you think anyone here owes a colonialism apologist any kind of explanation?

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              Lol yea that’s the excuse. No one owes our little bullshit plan for society an explanation. Move somewhere else please, just leave Western society since it’s sooooo bad.

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                Lol yea that’s the excuse.

                It’s not an excuse, it’s a question. It’s fine… don’t answer it - you ducking and diving it is all the answer we have ever needed.

                If you don’t want to answer that, perhaps try answering this one - how long do you think it’ll take before people forget about the “west’s” latest genocide over there in Gaza?

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                  I asked you the question, and you dodged it with a bullshit whataboutism. Because you can’t answer it.

                  You really think that a collapse of western civ will stop wars and death and make the world a more peaceful place? You must be huffing something really strong to believe that.

                  When do you think china will stop the genocide of the Uyghurs?

                  People are protesting and being arrested trying to stop the gaza genocide and it’s in the news constantly. I don’t think it’ll stop being an issue for a good while. Israel is a state that should never have been built.

                  Now that I’ve answered your question, answer mine.

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                    I asked you the question,

                    No… you demanded an explanation that you don’t deserve. And you still don’t deserve it.

                    Colonialism apologists don’t get to demand anything here.

                    western civ will stop wars and death

                    Is that the best defense of white supremacism you can manage? “If we didn’t do it, somebody else would have?”

                    Where did you get that? PragerU?

                    Israel is a state that should never have been built.

                    So now your “if we didn’t do it, somebody else would have” schtick doesn’t apply, eh?

                    So what about the white supremacist states that taught those Zionists the means and methods of “western civilisation,” eh? The same white supremacist states that continue to fund Israel’s genocide to the hilt?

                    Should THEY have been built?