So do Chinese citizens, though. The state exerts control over private media and the speech of wealthy capitalists, but there’s broad diversity in political thought and discussion.
We have a few Chinese folks in the revolupedia discord so they definitely exist. We’re pretty aggressively against modern China.
From what I’ve seen on Chinese social media, you have two kinda minds. The folks who want a return to maoism, and the folks that are more liberal minded. That’s extremely reductive but that seems to be a sentiment repeated frequently by Chinese people so it’s likely got some truth to it.
I don’t uphold China, but I do think ~95% of what people have said in defense of China on this post is true. There’s lot of propaganda that paints China as monstrously worse than it is.
Chinese too, and openly in the US currently not so much.
People in China are heavy controlled by the Gov, but they have more civil rights and services as citizen in the US
Complete list of banned books in the US. (Autoscroll enabled, due to the hugh amount of those, stop/start with mouseclick)
Lmao what? Do you know what “banning” a book means? It’s just not on offer in schools or a library for that specific state. It’s completely normal to just buy it for yourself and there are even organizations dedicated to distributing banned books.
It’s hilarious to try and dunk on America with this of all things. Media restricted/censored in China is entirely unavailable. It’s actually very interesting how the censorship manifests in daily life, but I imagine any .ml reader will discard those anecdotes (or any verifiable reports) and try to redirect back to the West somehow.
Crazy how you can literally just look this stuff up and find out what’s true instead of discarding arguments.
Independent trade unions are illegal in China. The single, state sanctioned trade union is widely criticized by international trade union orgs for not faithfully representing its workers. By most accounts it exists to funnel labor disputes through a bureaucratic meat grinder of mediation to maintain the status quo. With the exception of a handful of actions for international leverage, all strikes are wildcat.
If you’re actually interested in labor relations in China I’d recommend this article for starters. It’s older but the situation hasn’t improved under recent leadership.
Yes, both countries have serious problems. At least Americans can discuss theirs openly.
Tell that to Malcolm X, MLK, or Fred Hampton
And it’s not like those were one-offs, COINTELPRO was crazy in scope and did massive damage beyond just the murders.
It’s not like that’s all in the past either, just look at how the Palestine protests were handled as well as the Floyd protests.
Lol have you seen what’s been happening to pro Palestine protestors? BLM protestors? Anti Trump protestors? Julian Assange? Edward Snowden?
Those against the Iraq war, or Vietnam war…
You’re free to discuss anything you want as long as it doesn’t actually threaten the status quo in any way lol
Just don’t demand or try to enact real lasting change
You are free to protest as long as we can tuck you in the corner and ignore you
So do Chinese citizens, though. The state exerts control over private media and the speech of wealthy capitalists, but there’s broad diversity in political thought and discussion.
Really? So Chinese citizens can go out and publish an article about why they believe Xi Jinping is actually betraying socialist ideals?
Some have. They’d be wrong, so it’s not super common, but it’s possible, assuming they aren’t a wealthy capitalist or something.
We have a few Chinese folks in the revolupedia discord so they definitely exist. We’re pretty aggressively against modern China.
From what I’ve seen on Chinese social media, you have two kinda minds. The folks who want a return to maoism, and the folks that are more liberal minded. That’s extremely reductive but that seems to be a sentiment repeated frequently by Chinese people so it’s likely got some truth to it.
I don’t uphold China, but I do think ~95% of what people have said in defense of China on this post is true. There’s lot of propaganda that paints China as monstrously worse than it is.
Chinese average citizens can freely discuss what they want, the “disappearing” is just western propa
Really? So Chinese citizens can go out and publish an article about why they believe Xi Jinping is actually betraying socialist ideals?
I’ve spent some time in Shanghai and that was not my experience there.
Cool story
K
Clearly your experiences didn’t involve a whole lot of being disappeared, you’re still here
My cat’s breath smells like cat food.
Chinese too, and openly in the US currently not so much. People in China are heavy controlled by the Gov, but they have more civil rights and services as citizen in the US
Complete list of banned books in the US. (Autoscroll enabled, due to the hugh amount of those, stop/start with mouseclick)
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/a45012950/banned-book-list/
US Freedom and Human rights only exist in Fox News.
Lmao what? Do you know what “banning” a book means? It’s just not on offer in schools or a library for that specific state. It’s completely normal to just buy it for yourself and there are even organizations dedicated to distributing banned books.
It’s hilarious to try and dunk on America with this of all things. Media restricted/censored in China is entirely unavailable. It’s actually very interesting how the censorship manifests in daily life, but I imagine any .ml reader will discard those anecdotes (or any verifiable reports) and try to redirect back to the West somehow.
You guys are completely brainwashed if you believe this. They can’t even form a union or strike.
It always amazes me how gringos can just say the dumbest, fakest shit with such confidence then call you brainwashed.
If the State Department said Chinese people can’t play guitar you’d call us brainwashed if we showed you a video of one of them playing.
Crazy how you can literally just look this stuff up and find out what’s true instead of discarding arguments.
Independent trade unions are illegal in China. The single, state sanctioned trade union is widely criticized by international trade union orgs for not faithfully representing its workers. By most accounts it exists to funnel labor disputes through a bureaucratic meat grinder of mediation to maintain the status quo. With the exception of a handful of actions for international leverage, all strikes are wildcat.
If you’re actually interested in labor relations in China I’d recommend this article for starters. It’s older but the situation hasn’t improved under recent leadership.