Dude the only people expecting shit are the ones who get mad when they migrate to Linux and won’t just learn a few simple tools to make their life easier.
Your package manager commands and options and some basic tools to troubleshoot local networking are really not that fucking hard.
Your package manager commands and options and some basic tools to troubleshoot local networking are really not that fucking hard.
Who are you trying to fool, yourself or others? Setting up networking in the CLI isn’t even remotely as simple / straightforward as you make it seem for the common user. Package manager commands are reasonable, however also by far less enticing to most people than a graphical software manager that shows all information at a glance. Especially if you look for something for a certain purpose instead of a specific name.
It may seem hard at first, it’s just that people are scared of the terminal. It’s not as if widely used programs with fancy UIs aren’t also complex.
I’m understanding of people who are just using their computer for web browsing and email, but I’m directing ire towards Windows power users who just expect certain tool sets to materialize for them.
Well, I’m arguing for the common non-IT people. It’s also more often than not less about complexity, but intuitiveness paired with a lack of knowledge (which is okay, as long as it’s well designed it’s okay not to know how a clutch actually works but still wanting or needing to drive a car).
For power users the whole discussion obviously shifts as it’s reasonable to expect them having both the interest and time to learn stuff.
I think that there are more than ample options for non technical people, like Mint. I also don’t think that those users are coming to Lemmy to stir shit, so it really doesn’t make sense to me who makes these posts.
Like, are you unaware of the distribution model of FLOSS projects like Linux? Because of the lack of profit motive from selling licenses, development is funded and done by donation. Some is corporate sponsored, but not much.
When people piss and moan about the state of things, it just makes them look really foolish, because they don’t know what has gone into getting it this far.
If you don’t like the tool sets available, feel free to roll your sleeves up and organize a design team to change that.
Dude the only people expecting shit are the ones who get mad when they migrate to Linux and won’t just learn a few simple tools to make their life easier.
Your package manager commands and options and some basic tools to troubleshoot local networking are really not that fucking hard.
Who are you trying to fool, yourself or others? Setting up networking in the CLI isn’t even remotely as simple / straightforward as you make it seem for the common user. Package manager commands are reasonable, however also by far less enticing to most people than a graphical software manager that shows all information at a glance. Especially if you look for something for a certain purpose instead of a specific name.
It may seem hard at first, it’s just that people are scared of the terminal. It’s not as if widely used programs with fancy UIs aren’t also complex.
I’m understanding of people who are just using their computer for web browsing and email, but I’m directing ire towards Windows power users who just expect certain tool sets to materialize for them.
Well, I’m arguing for the common non-IT people. It’s also more often than not less about complexity, but intuitiveness paired with a lack of knowledge (which is okay, as long as it’s well designed it’s okay not to know how a clutch actually works but still wanting or needing to drive a car).
For power users the whole discussion obviously shifts as it’s reasonable to expect them having both the interest and time to learn stuff.
I think that there are more than ample options for non technical people, like Mint. I also don’t think that those users are coming to Lemmy to stir shit, so it really doesn’t make sense to me who makes these posts.
Like, are you unaware of the distribution model of FLOSS projects like Linux? Because of the lack of profit motive from selling licenses, development is funded and done by donation. Some is corporate sponsored, but not much.
When people piss and moan about the state of things, it just makes them look really foolish, because they don’t know what has gone into getting it this far.
If you don’t like the tool sets available, feel free to roll your sleeves up and organize a design team to change that.