• belastend@slrpnk.net
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    2 days ago

    The year of linux will never come because a lot of people wanna boot up their pc and have it work. Just fire up a program and have work, without looking up workarounds and clis and other stuff.

    I made the jump just this month but i can totally understand if someone doesnt wanna do this.

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      2 days ago

      There’s a lot of work being poured into Flatpak, which is the way to go forward (most likely coupled with immutable file systems in the future). If this work is done as well as more people contributing to the big desktop environments as Linux becomes gradually more popular there’s a good chance we’ll see steady success.

      But even then this whole culture has to change, and people need to stop lying to themselves how “CLI commands are universal” and such stuff (there are way too many differences between distros). Anyone who, instead of pointing to the corresponding disk utility, by default starts to describe parted or /etc/fstab to people who didn’t asked for the harder CLI way is actively alienating people. Not to mention who, in utter unhelpfulness, respond with “why would you want to do that” or “RTFM”. As if that’ll help anyone (also the manuals are utter garbage as they’re almost always written using high-level terminology expecting knowledge no newcomer will understand).

      It’s indeed “alles extrem belastend”.

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      1 day ago

      So what do those people do when their Windows machine doesn’t just work and applications require a workaround?

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        Get angry, frustrated and ask someone who knows. And because more people are using Windows, chances are, they will find the answer way quicker. Also, most programs already run on windows.

        Like when i wanted to set up my Proton Drive on Windows, i just downloaded it and started it.

        On Ubuntu, i had to write a systemd.service to get the program to autostart on starting my machine. Which was fun, but it isnt for a lot of people.

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          22 hours ago

          If people can do that for Windows, they can also do it for Linux

          idk what is wrong with Ubuntu but autostarting applications is extremely simple. If looking online for help isn’t for a lot of people, then computers aren’t for a lot of people.

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            20 hours ago

            Dont know, but i had to go that route.

            And again, on Windows, i wouldnt have to do that. I just download the program and there it is.

            Let me just propose a different scenario: i watch football via Wow.tv. Before i installed Linux, i

            1. Opened up a browser
            2. Went to the website
            3. Entered a password
            4. Watched the stream.

            On linux i tried that, got hit with the old “DRM content on Linux” razzledazzle, tried to figure out if i could install a browser that runs via wine to access the site, only to get hit with four forum entries all saying: “Why tf do you want to run a browser via wine? Dont do that.”

            I had to whip out my old windows laptop to watch my footie.

            I love linux. I love being able to tinker and do all the cool stuff on it, being independent of large corps and such. But for a lot of people this isnt worth the hassle. And not recognizing this is one of the reasons why Linux will not reach mass adoption.