• adm@lemm.ee
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    3 days ago

    Lefty here. Fuck Israel. Judaism is cool though. Praise YHWH. Looking forward to passover with my friends this year. Fuck the modern state of Israel.

    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      because the pro-israeli lobby has spent millions, billions even, on trying to corrupt the discourse so that any criticism of israel is inherently linked to antisemitism, and tens of millions of people, if not more, have bought into that social engineering and believe deeply that criticizing israel is literally worse than anything hitler did.

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      4 days ago

      I mean how is it much different than “I hate Trump and Elon” but I don’t hate Americans … (well I am an American but still).

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        4 days ago

        Israel’s 1948 Declaration of Independence states the nation was founded on the “national and historic right of the Jewish people”

        Israel’s 2018 Basic Law constitutionally enshrined the state as the “nation-state of the Jewish people,” granting exclusive national self-determination to Jews, prioritizing Jewish settlement as a “national value”, designating Hebrew as the sole official language (with Arabic demoted to “special status”), affirming Jerusalem as the capital, and guaranteeing Jewish immigration rights.

        This may be why people conflate the two. Israel has defined itself as Jewish state.

        As Mo Amer says, it’s a marketing issue.

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        4 days ago

        It’s not marketing. It’s a targeted campaign to intertwine the two… oh wait yeah it’s marketing 🤣

    • mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      4 days ago

      It’s not. That type of thinking just works with the narrative, whether it’s conflating “Israel” and “Jews,” or “Men” and “rapists,” or “Blacks” and criminals, or Muslims and terrorists. The point is to make it impossible to argue with anything said

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    Like I’ve said before, I’ve never been more disgusted with Zionists and Israel. The fact that his goofy ass is sucking off Netanyahu in the background just makes me pissed off like nothing else. I’ve literally only been using bluesky to ask him to Resign

    • sporkler@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago

      all liberals aren’t leftists, but all leftists…

      or are you saying that a consevative agenda is leftist?

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          4 days ago

          When I responded I had read liberal as progressive and responded accordingly, I’m not certain what happened in my brain but my response makes no sense reading it now. Sorry about that.

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    5 days ago

    Don’t need much work I’m a leftist and no one will ever verify catch me being an antisemitic bot in favor of Hamas

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      5 days ago

      Is demanding a ceasefire and putting an arms embargo on Israel until it does make you an anti-semetic bot in favor of hamas? Because those are the people Schumer thinks are the enemies of Israel.

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        Man hamas bots are insane, they managed to fake kill many people to make the UN and ICJ start a genocide producers against Israel. Poor Israel… /s

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          For real though, Zionists still bringing up “Pallywood” after the entire Gaza strip is flattened in 4K shows how bonkers insane they are. And how bad their propaganda has gotten.

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    5 days ago

    While there are certainly shitty, bigoted reasons to be anti-Israel, there are a fuckton more undeniably good reasons to be anti-Israel.

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      4 days ago

      The Christian nationalist fascists love Israel not just because of their warmongering, genocide, and apartheid, but also because they think its existence keeps Jewish people off in their own country away from everyone else.

      It sounds contradictory, but the vast majority of support for Israel is literally rooted in antisemitism.

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        Also the whole end times death cult thing about the Jewish State being a sign of the impending apocolypse and rapture and all the GOOD people don’t actually DIE because God takes them up in the mothershipand for seven years all the heathens duke it out andm ake shit worse before Christ comes back and throug hthe power of The Word MURDERS PEOPLE.

        Source. Am Christian. If you can’t point at the bullshit in your own house… I mean. Stones. Glass house. Right?:)

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      5 days ago

      The distinction is hating the government specifically. It’s unlikely a bigot would hate the government, but not the people.

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        No I also hate all zionist israelis. Nazi germany would’ve ended overnight had just a large plurality of workers stopped supporting the military. But it was the 1940s, there was no way they could know the horrors of the holocaust.

        Israel would end within a week of a national strike by israeli citizens, and they can’t even claim ignorance like nazi civilians could have. The truth is a majority of israelis support zionism and support the regime despite having all information available.

        Hating the people is okay too. As long as you’re hating them for the content of their character, not their nationality or other immutable characteristic.

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          Most germans knew about the deportations, the torture and murder.

          It wasnt just the jews that disappeared, but also your grocer, who was active in the KPD or your former village mayor, who belonged to the SPD or your friend, who made a joke on the tram and got executed.

          My grandparents and great-grandparents knew. Just like zionist israelis.

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          5 days ago

          Hating the government implies also hating the people who support the government.

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            5 days ago

            Its not just the government, though, the ideology itself is inherently evil. Anyone that’s a zionist is objectively a bad person.