EDIT: changed article link and title to comply with rules (that I didn’t read 😛). The article that is linked now, links to the previous one (this one https://www.rbb24.de/politik/beitrag/2025/06/senatsverwaltung-verkehr-berlin-tempo-30.htm), and the title is the google translated of the new article, as close as original German as I can
The absurdity of the proposal is already in the title, and shows how motonormativity is spread all over the world.
Berlin has a very good public transit system, and a few 30 km/h zones cannot be that bad.
I would love to hear opinions from someone who lives there!
crossposted from: https://mastodon.uno/users/rivoluzioneurbanamobilita/statuses/114732266280428499
This really hurts my brain. How can politicians be this shortsighted?
I’m living here and you are absolutely correct. Public transit is good. Most streets are 50 km/h. Some are 30 but that is oftentimes not enforced.
Several studies have shown that a speed limit of 30 km/h can massively reduce the number and severity of accidents. But as Germans we hate the idea of slowing down for other road users. We bought those shiny non electric cars and we want to blast through the city, god damnit!
Oh they just got friends and potential future employers in the automotive industry.
I politics hanlons razor is reversed. Never attribute to stupidity that which could be explained by corruption.
I’m curious, do they fire all sysadmins on days where everything goes smoothly and rehire new ones the day after?
They do. The classic joke is that bosses will complain about paying IT/devops/SRE regardless of whether or not shit is broken.
That is not the original headline or the in-article analysis, so unfortunately I don’t think that’s a good fit for this sub/magazine.
That’s true. I got to the op article through this one: https://www.der-postillon.com/2025/06/sonntagsfrage-tempo-30-berlin.html
Would this be a good fit? (I don’t speak German)
I think so, if the headline is preserved while machine-translated.
Done.
Reminder for myself: read rules of community before posting, next time 🙂
I agree. It’s just go with the English one.
As stupid as this sounds, eventually someone is going to suggest letting grocery stores be open on Sunday and this will usher in what German historians call “Der Modern Age”. There will be a domino effect… Rathaus will get Internet, Doctors will forgo fax for email and Aldi will finally bring Trader Joe’s to the motherland. We will slowly creep into the 21st century. One pointless rule at a time.
This stupid speed limit thing will be remembered as the catalyst of progress in the race to catch up to their neighbors.
( /s Because Germany hates change )
Queue up the: “I’m entitled to a peaceful Sunday” folks.
They’ve got a new moronic conservative government which also stopped every new bike lane. Even if they were federally subsidized and it means the city now has to pay back those.
Stupid Ideologically driven morons
This is like when a person goes on a diet, loses weight, then stops the diet.
Okay, so you’re overweight.
To lose weight, you must consume fewer calories than you burn. You do this for awhile. Your weight decreases.
Your weight has decreased to your target weight.
If you continue to consume fewer calories than you burn, you will continue to lose weight, becoming underweight.
To maintain your target weight, you must consume as many calories that you burn.
Your weight loss diet will be more restrictive than a weight maintenance diet.
I AM TOO A HUMAN BEING. JUST CHANGE THE EATING CYCLE PARAMETERS UNTIL TARGET WEIGHT ACQUIRED.
More like stopping an antibiotic course mid-way.
Or stopping your blood pressure medicine because you don’t have high blood pressure anymore.
You’re supposed to stop the diet when you reached your target weight. So not like that at all.
Only if you want to get even fatter.
Find a diet that works for life, not a “lose 5 kilos in 3 weeks” fad diet if you want to have a healthy weight.
If you’re on a diet that will make you lose weight you can’t stay on that diet when you want to keep your weight. Doesn’t mean you have to go back to the diet that made you fat. This really is just very basic common sense.
Well get a diet that makes you stay on your target weight. Those fad diets will just not work, as you just regain the weight when you stop.
Diet also doesn’t mean weight-losing. You can have a cheese-less diet (god forbid) for example.
I was in Berlin some years ago (2018?) and traffic is what will make me never ever put my foot there again.
Eating on the terrace of a cozy restaurant in the middle of the city? A fucking mega truck hauling 40 tons of wood thundering by at 70km/h raising so much dust from the street you get it in your food. Mmmm 🙋🏼♀️.
It’s everywhere even in their mega park you hear traffic traffic traffic, I know Germans love their cars and so, but man, keep it away from the city centre?
Hey and in Freiburg they just cancelled the LEZ because the air quality improved…
