• Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca
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    21 days ago

    It appears white/gold to me on it’s own, I’ve never been able to see anything different.

    Grabbing this specific image and sampling the colours though; they appear more of a grey/brown colour. I can sorta maybe understand blue, but definitely not black.

    This is just using Polish photo editor on android:

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        21 days ago

        A) I’m not American

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        B) America can go fuck itself until it sorts out it’s Nazi problem. I still think Canada should enact a full trade embargo and take our business elsewhere.

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      The point has never been about the actual pixel color codes. It’s about how human perception doesn’t follow those objective metrics.

      Distilled down, we perceive color and brightness in comparison to the surrounding scene. The checker shadow illusion is a clear example of the same color looking different.

      So the color perception on the dress depends on how the brain decides to color correct the white balance of the scene.

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        21 days ago

        I find it easy to switch back and forth between the two color combinations: If I assume that the scene is in full sun, then the dress looks blue and black. If I assume that it’s in the shade, but with a brightly-lit background, then it looks white and gold.

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        20 days ago

        For the millionth time, the camera perceived it that way, not a human eye.

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      21 days ago

      It’s funny how people will keep barking about it even when you slap them in the face with color picker which is mathematical display of the color. There is no “how brain is seeing things”. It’s literally WHAT THE COLOR IS. To call white with faint blue tint “blue” and what is clearly a “gold” shade can’t possibly be black. If photo was heavily manipulated through photo editing or lighting, that doesn’t prove anything at all. Or the question was stupid. No one was really asking “what color is the dress”, they were asking what colors are on the photo. And photo has no relation to the real dress because of light conditions manipulation or even photo editing.

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        21 days ago

        This is the color picker in the image you replied to. Do you really think the colors on the left are white and the colors on the right are gold?

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          This person doesn’t understand pixels lol. You picked one pixel. Pick 100 of them and average them. It’s in the white spectrum with a slight shade of blue hue. If you look at it on the color wheel, it’s well within white segment slightly towards the blue. When you zoom out of single pixels, it’s white that you get under cool white light. It’s still considered white.

          As for gold, computer screens do not display gold in specular way how you see it with eyes.When you pick pixels, they will be in range of brown. Again, you don’t seem to underetand pixels. And ultimately, this is suppose to be black, remember? Where’s the black?

          The “after” photos of a dress show dark blue with black lace details because it was not captured in bullshit lighting. Where is that on the picked pixels? Just like years ago we are once again arguing over bullshit doctored/manipulated/bad photo of a dress arguing what color it is. It’s beyond stupid and I can’t believe people are still this dumb to argue about colors that aren’t even there. I don’t care how dress actually looks, you showed me the photo of it and you’re asking me how the dress looks like on the photo, not in reality. The rest is within the color picker which is mathematical representation of colors that doesn’t give a shit how eyes work. And it picks very faint blue and brown (thats perceived by eyes as white and gold). Not dark blue and black.

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        21 days ago

        No one was really asking “what color is the dress”, they were asking what colors are on the photo.

        This is not my recollection of this at all. Everyone knows what physical colors are on the screen. If so people who see the image as white and gold wouldn’t have been shocked/angry to learn the dress is actually blue and black.

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          If they were asking about actual color of the dress that you cannot see, what the fuck is the point? That’s like saying, we put orange cat in fully closed box. What color is the cat? And you then claim it’s not orange, it’s black because there is no light inside the fully closed box so the cat is actually black. That’s the level of stupid argument with this stupid ass dress.

          I can also shoot a white dress to look entirely blue because I’m gonna use cool white light at 9000 fucking Kelvins and fuck up the cameras white balance to make shit look anything but its actual color. I can also take a normal photo and then just drag some sliders in photo editor and fuck up colors and then ask some bullshit question about colors and then go like “well, achtually it’s not that color”.

          It’s also funny when people argue it’s not actually white because color picker says it’s light blue. Firstly, color motherfucking temperature. Secondly, open color wheel and see where it’s positioned. It’s in the white segment mildly nudging towards blue. The part where I’m not gonna argue is perception of gradients. This isn’t “this gold color is actually black bullshit”, but actual science where people perceive correct colors differently. For someone a certain gradient of red is perceived as lighter or darker compared to someone else. But certainly isn’t perceived as green. Or black. Or whatever other basic color.

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            It’s also funny when people argue it’s not actually white because color picker says it’s light blue. Firstly, color motherfucking temperature.

            It’s because it seems like about half of people’s eyes and brains correct it one way and the other half the other way, leading to extremely heated discussions about “how can you not see it my way.” This isn’t like other optical illusions like that silhouette of a spinning ballerina where you can easily flip it around in your mind. I’ve only ever seen this as white and gold once and it took someone putting it upside down and very slowly zooming out from a very specific area of the dress.

            So that’s why people were so torn about it.