The state wants to own your kids, that way you’re out of the way and they have slaves for life
Lunch debt? The fuck outta here with that dystopian nightmare shit
Wait until you learn about “vanlords” in Los Angeles.
It’s the first stop on the way to slave labor.
And they have the nerve to ask why people aren’t having kids anymore
Christ empowered his followers to clothe the naked, feed the hungry and tend to the sick. For some reason American Christians have decided that these explicit dictates should he ignored, much like the reminder that it is not their role to judge, so that they can instead focus on bigotry.
Every movement in history has hypocrites that follow it, and give the movement a bad name. Lumping “American Christians” together and then judging them based on the worst people who adopt that title is creating a straw man.
All American Christians that I know try and follow what you pointed out in your first sentence.
The statement on judging however is a bit misguided, Jesus didn’t say to never judge, but to be careful to avoid hypocrisy and to judge with love.
At this point a substantial portion of self identified Christians in America are supporting some ideologies and programs that are the opposite if Christ’s teachings. It isn’t a small part. It might even be close to the majority.
Yeah, that’s true and it’s very upsetting that so many hypocrites would exist within the wider church. I’d argue that someone that doesn’t follow the teachings of Christ isn’t a Christian at all since that’s literally what the word means.
The catch is for many of these their Churches are telling them thiscis the message of Christ
That’s pretty much the entire history of Christianity.
No, it isn’t. For most of history most Christians were taking care of those around them. It is with industrialism and Calvinism that we see people move away from this.
The infuriating part is a different beared Jewish guy tried to put into practice these ideals and the USA fought to stop it everywhere.
Ever heard of The Crusades?
You mean where muslim invaders were cast out of Europe ?
Yes what relevance does that have to the willingness of people to take care of their neighbors?
Holy wars and misogyny aren’t a requirement for people to help their neighbors.
You keep trying to steer this to stuff I am not talking about at all, why?
Because you’re avoiding the real issues that people have with religion.
You need to brush up on your history then. The church’s history is largely violently forcing others to convert and using the Bible to persecute those they don’t like.
That is entirely unrelated to the fact that most Christian communities did in fact try to clothe, feed and tend those that needed it. Most humans will try to ease the suffering of those they know in their communities if they can because most aren’t so cold hearted
After all the murder and violent colonialism, kind of makes it a moot point, eh?
No, because the point that all the bigots are missing is that religious people are generally no different than other people. If you see a starving kid you aren’t going tosit in front of them chowing down. You will, presuming you aren’t on the ASPD spectrum or starving yourself, feed that kid.
Most humans did this . Most humans do this. You have to raise them to believe helping others is wrong and that enters Protestant Christianity through Calvinism.
So, by your own logic, religion is not required to help people, so why does that forgive Christianity for its holy wars and violent crusades?
Your statements don’t align with reality, which isn’t surprising because religion doesn’t align with reality.
Are you so prejudiced that ypu think most people would not give food to their neighbors if they were starving? Are the people around you that horrible?
I’m talking about Christians, not most people.
I dont understand why your down voted.
Christian institutions = \ = christian followers.
a few hundred years ago homeless people and veteran carried tokens that enabled them to be given free food and help at churches.
Paster Damian died of leprosy after 11 years of helping others with the sickness, tending their wounds, sharing food and digging graves. He kept doing so while he was sick.
The catholic church as an institution absolutely is evil but that does not automatically make believers or individual priests so.
History is Littered with proof of this. Science denying is not the answer to religious bigotry.
The fact is for most of history you wouldnt have left your county so you actually were more inclined to be closer with people you might not have loved because of expediency. You aren’t going to chow down on seconds if you know your neighbor is starving unless you are a psychopath and most humans aren’t.
Dude, a guy named Constantine literally started this modern Christiandom train rolling with his “Hey guys, I just met Jesus, and he told me I should be in charge now. So, I’m king, ordained by heaven, and we’ll enforce this new order with lots of violence.”
And he and his successors then proceeded to conquer territory, and then mint coins depicting a soldier holding a cross and smashing the head of his enemy under his boot. In hoc signo vinces.
And thus Christian imperialism, conquest, subjugation, and terror has marched along ever since. Lest ye forget the Crusades and the Inquisistion, for example.
Yes, there’s beauty and kindness in the Christian tradition as well. But let’s not pretend that it was all huggy-bunches-of-love until Calvinism showed up.
We’ll also note that their supposed god claim never chimes in to distance himself from these people.
Dude, a guy named Constantine literally started this modern Christiandom train rolling with his “Hey guys, I just met Jesus, and he told me I should be in charge now. So, I’m king, ordained by heaven, and we’ll enforce this new order with lots of violence.”
Constantinus was the Emperor of Rome before he converted the Empire. He did not create the notion of the Divine Right to Rule. His conversion was entirely politically motivated as it happens near his death.
Calvin is the one that promotes the notion that wealth is a sign of God’s love which is the opposite of what Jesus taught.
Why did you reply authoritatively if your understanding of this subject is so poor?
It wasn’t Calvin it was Luther. And he was quoting Saint Augustine.
Calvin said that although the righteous were selected and so charity would not gain brownie points to heaven, the selected would do charitable works because they were the select.
Martin Luther just opposed all charity.
Well Constantine convened the council of nicea to codify his rule and leave out a lot of the Bible, so there’s that.
Expecting Christianity to base their actions on Jesus is like expecting the Nestle corporation to base their actions on the Quik Bunny.
This sounds like a great way to generate a different headline,
“Local man kills 4 in attack of school board meeting after losing his children over school lunch debt”
“You might be giving your kids a terrible childhood, so we’re going to ensure they have a terrible life starting in our first-class foster care system”
Unfortunately nothing new. I remember as a kid that if you didn’t have money in your lunch account, your lunch was taken away and if you were lucky they’d have a peanut butter sandwich for you.
If you were in a negative balance, such as if your parents were unable to pay, then you’d also be restricted from certain activities and pressured to make your parents pay what was owed.
That picture of the food is a damn feast compared to what actually gets served.
Sounds like a fly-over shit hole state to me.
I think school lunch should cost something, but very little, just so the kids can understand the value of money
like a dollar per lunch isnt that much at all
but it shouldn’t place a large financial strain on poor families
This take can get fucked.
I’m not sure you understand that anyone can afford to pay a small enough sum for food
the point isn’t that the money will cover the cost
if lunch costs less than a dollar every single kid will be able to pay that and if they don’t their teacher could easily provide because of how small a sum of money that is
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on, austerity politics are fucked.
If you’re just going to assign an arbitrary token amount to charge for the food then how will that teach the kids the value of money? And since the kids themselves wouldn’t be the ones actually paying for the meal it’s still a disconnected symbolic gesture unlikely to impart any lifelong lessons. You’re going to be spending more effort and potentially money in tracking and enforcing payments for the meals than what you’re going to recoup by (under)charging for them. How about, since everyone is already paying taxes toward education, we just allocate some of those funds to providing food for every student/child if they are actually intended to be the future productive members and leaders of society?
I would think a better method to teach the value of money is to explain the economies of scale and couple that with showing how much planning and work goes into providing and preparing the “free” meals so they aren’t taken for granted as just being manna from heaven.
You know what, fuck you.
Now that we have that out of the way: Kids can learn the value of money without going hungry. Let them work in the garden or pick up a weekend job, let them buy something they really want for themselves and boom, they learn about it. but don’t deny them fucking food because they can’t pay for it.
everyone has at least a dollar
and if they don’t then have the lunch be further subsidized
but the cost should be just above $0
Starve your kid or lose them. That’s quite a choice for a poor parent to make.
My late father grew up in an orphanage because my grandfather was too poor to care for 5 kids and a sick wife. My grandparents were able to take the kids home on Sundays though, so it wasn’t a situation where they yielded full custody. I’m not saying an orphanage was ideal, but it’s a shame that these days there is not the same kind of middle ground where kids can be cared for but still stay connected to their family. I guess that is too much of a social safety net for conservatives to tolerate.
You wanna eat?
You want to eat?
No more parents!
Who made this warning?
I need a name
Because that has nothing to do with debt, putting kids in foster care wound only cost the state even more money
That is only about unbridled power and control
Absolutely delusional
Agreed. Name and shame. Whatever fucker came up with this deserves to be ostracised.
The Wyoming Valley West School District.
If you want the name of the person standing behind the letter,
Wyoming Valley West’s lawyer, Charles Coslett, said he did not consider the letters to be threatening.
“Hopefully, that gets their attention and it certainly did, didn’t it? I mean, if you think about it, you’re here this morning because some parents cried foul because he or she doesn’t want to pay a debt attributed to feeding their kids. How shameful,” Coslett told WYOU-TV.
I’m having a hard time confirming it, but it looks like an Irvin DeRemer was the super while this occurred, but was replaced in the 2025 election.
It’s also an empty threat,
Luzerne County’s manager and child welfare agency director have written the superintendent, insisting the district stop making what they call false claims.
Also. The majority of long term homeless individuals are people that aged out of the foster care system. The moment they turn 18 they are out on their ass with only the clothing on their back and no life skills because foster care in America is little better than prison.
Aka slavery. The stories of foster kids are often horrific.
I’m surprised there hasn’t been a class action lawsuit on the behalf of all foster children (past and present) against the US government. It would almost be impossible for any other modern country to do a worse job.
Yes, but kids in foster care are easy to abuse, so your tax dollars might be worth it for some.
I’m from this region of Pennsylvania. Abuse and bullying is protected by the culture of this region. The sheriff’s office has done mass murders against strikers in the coal fields. 1860’s I believe. This guy stepped down. But his sentiment carries far in the community. It’s a bigoted hate filled hole.
A literal gun cult is financing far right radicals into local politics. A hate group is trying to force schools to out children who say they are gay. And YouTube protects their account where they post hours of hate content.
I worked with the president of the group before. He was fired from his job because he was accused of stealing $15,000.
If every American learned what citizens in other 1st world countries have that we don’t, there would be a revolution tomorrow.
A lot of them know but choose to look away because “mUh FrEeDoM”
“Fuck free healthcare, education, food quality standards, safety regulations,y right to own guns is more important than all that, and fuck them (school shooting) kids”
Signed -america’s “patriots”
Nevermind that lots of countries allow for personal firearm ownership.
Mmmhmmmm… I actually live in one such country, if you want a gun you take a course, pass a test (and a background check), get a license, and you can then go buy a gun.
In the united shitholes of america, you find a guy on Craigslist and meet in a Walmart parking lot…
Infact virtually ALL the gun crimes committed in my country is because of guns being smuggled in from yours!
But hey, that’s a real cool straw man you got there! Good luck with that!
I think you missed my point if you’re accusing me of straw-manning, I was pointing out that even their flimsy justification is baseless.
We literally are under coup rule and all anyone is *doing is making up rude nicknames for the coup front man.
