• wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    Jobs was an idiot. Chose homeopathic crap instead of medicine. I don’t give him credit for anything if he’s that dumb.

    He’s free to do that, sure, but anyone doing so is safe to be labeled “moron” by everyone else.

    Unless I’ve heard a messed up version of events he will stay in the “idiots that were not beneficial to humans in any way” trash can.

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    4 months ago

    what did Steve Jobs even do except for management and marketing, and why does he then get the praise for the hardware/software???

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      4 months ago

      Why, exactly? Genuinely asking. I mean, don’t get me wrong, I’m no Apple fan, and he was absolutely an insufferable douchebag to nearly everyone he knew; and was a verifiable self-righteous fuckwit who Darwin’d himself out of existence by choosing woo-woo bullshit over medicine for a very treatable cancer.

      Evil, though, I think might be a stretch – Elon, Thiel, Vance, Trump, Murdoch, the Sackler family, the Koch brothers, etc. all excellent contenders for being truly evil – but afaik Jobs was just a dickhead with an ego the size of a blimp, and I think we ought not dilute that term with just your run-of-the-mill dickheads. Unless you know something I don’t about him.

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          4 months ago

          This told me nothing I didn’t already know. Like I said, he was a dickhead, to almost every single person in his personal and professional life. But evil requires a level of maliciousness that transcends the people you are in physical contact with, imo – you have to be actively striving to make life worse for at least a few hundred people or more.

          A dickhead and a shitty father, sure, I’m not defending his actions in the slightest. But “evil” would require him to have done something much worse than just treat his kid and the people in his immediate orbit like shit. Just my opinion.

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            evil requires a level of maliciousness that transcends the people you are in physical contact with, imo

            That’s a very strange definition. He also led moving manufacturing to China. You may have heard of the suicide nets they had to put up in their facilities.

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              I’ve never understood why it’s just Apple that seems to get the blame for using Foxconn, they’re estimated to make 40% of all consumer electronics. Nintendo uses them for all their consoles (since the GameCube), Sony use them for their hardware (TVs, the PlayStation, etc.), MS for the Xbox, Amazon for the Kindles, Google for the Pixels, etc.

              I don’t want this to sound like whataboutism, but I’ve just literally never understood why people seemingly overlook all the other companies using them to place the blame solely on Apple.

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    This is almost exactly what happened to me except they told me my phone had mold growing inside it from the shattered screen I wanted replaced.

    The “mold” was pocket lint from waiting a month to get it fixed.

    Bitch actually said right to my face that my phone no longer works so let’s get you a new one. I powered on the phone right there and he started backpedaling and grifting ‘oh but it won’t be long tho’. So I went home and still use it with the shattered screen because fuck them.

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      4 months ago

      and I’m guessing you will still continue to use apple products and buy another iphone… apple users are such sheep