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    16 days ago

    There is no separating capitalism and liberalism because liberalism is the ideology of capitalism.

    I’m liberal, you aren’t.

    The only definition of liberal you will allow is one I do not hold, a strawman that completely contradicts all of my values.

    That’s the end of the conversation then. I’m sorry you wasted your time typing this up.

    If you have anything beyond semantic arguments on labels I would lead with that next time.

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      16 days ago

      Lmao, I engaged with all your arguments, but you cannot do the same for me.

      What you call yourself doesn’t matter if you’re completely wrong. The only thing that matters is the tangible reality, which you are going against without providing a single evidence of why you’re right and why I’m wrong, when I argued extensively on my view.

      liberal scratched

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        16 days ago

        Hey I’m sorry. I just gave your comment an actual read and only the first paragraph I initially read was bad faith patronizing.

        In the rest you did bring up points worth responding to so I apologize and I will do that in a bit.

        Just keep in mind I may actually have some knowledge in history and just might be able to back up claims I make.

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        16 days ago

        Lmao, I engaged with all your arguments, but you cannot do the same for me.

        I will engage with any content in your argument.

        I’m not going to argue with your definition of liberal.

        I would love to keep talking but I’m the liberal, accept my definition of my own system of beliefs or I have nothing to say but “nu uh”.

        liberal scratched

        Wow, scratch a liberal and they’ll tell you not to do that because they don’t like getting scratched.

        How revealing.

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          16 days ago

          Then just respond to my arguments.

          scratch a liberal and they’ll tell you not to do that because they don’t like getting scratched.

          No, it’s scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.

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              16 days ago

              You’re still at this? I made several arguments in that comment that you can reply too independent of the definition you use for liberalism, if you’re just gonna continue to be this childish, then I have nothing else to talk about. Either respond to my comment or fuck right off.

              And since you’re gonna read this, like it or not, your definition of being a liberal has no basis in reality and is based on a theory that was never meant to you, no matter how much mental masturbation you make to justify it. The bourgeoisie used it to put themselves in power and continue to use it to maintain capitalism. You can cry all you want about how capitalism and liberalism as somehow separate, it won’t change reality.

              Liberalism is a death cult

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                16 days ago

                if you’re just gonna continue to be this childish, then I have nothing else to talk about.

                Respectfully, that’s where I tried to leave it 2 comments ago

                And since you’re gonna read this, like it or not, your definition of being a liberal has no basis in reality

                It’s not about liking or not liking it.

                If you’re in a different reality than me, there’s not much we’re going to be able to say. I’d rather spend my energy on people in the same reality

                You can cry all you want about how capitalism and liberalism as somehow separate, it won’t change reality.

                :'(