what do you even mean by infantilize? if you’re not doing the most basic, demonstrably beneficial way to save more lives including yours and others, forcing you to do it is not infantilizing an adult, it’s appropriately forcing someone who can’t be an adult to act like one.
but this is just to meet you at your inane level. in reality this kind of law is very effective at making more mindful of their safety, even if idiots among them do it begrudgingly. if not for laws like this pretty much no one would fasten their seatbelt or wear a helmet on a bike, not because they’re irresponsible but because it wouldn’t occur to them or they wouldn’t realize the importance and severity of such measures.
People have a right to make stupid decisions, even ones that would be dangerous to themselves.
We know this is the case because fast food isn’t illegal - it’s just that people (in this thread) are too stupid to see the contradictions in their own logic. Seatbelts are just a really oddly specific example of people choosing to police other people’s stupid decisions, for some reason.
it’s appropriately forcing someone who can’t be an adult to act like one.
I don’t think I could have worded in a more infantilizing manner if I tried, so thanks for proving my point I guess?
in reality this kind of law is very effective at making more mindful of their safety, even if idiots among them do it begrudgingly.
There are other ways to incentivize this behavior that doesn’t involve becoming an infantilizing nanny state. Significantly higher insurance premiums for people who choose not to buckle up, for example.
Cigarettes are another great example - they’re not illegal, but the government gives people financial incentives not to use them in the form of sin taxes.
There are many ways to disincentivize stupid behavior while still respecting the right of people to make those stupid choices.
cigarettes should absolutely be illegal, as they infringe on other people’s rights.
fast food is a ridiculous comparison. by the same logic shooting people should be legal because coughing in public isn’t illegal, since both are “unhealthy” for people around you.
and again, accidents aren’t personal. they involve others.
Infantilize adults for the sake of the children, got it.
Probably the worst take I’ve seen in this thread, and that’s saying something.
why, did you not see yours?
what do you even mean by infantilize? if you’re not doing the most basic, demonstrably beneficial way to save more lives including yours and others, forcing you to do it is not infantilizing an adult, it’s appropriately forcing someone who can’t be an adult to act like one.
but this is just to meet you at your inane level. in reality this kind of law is very effective at making more mindful of their safety, even if idiots among them do it begrudgingly. if not for laws like this pretty much no one would fasten their seatbelt or wear a helmet on a bike, not because they’re irresponsible but because it wouldn’t occur to them or they wouldn’t realize the importance and severity of such measures.
People have a right to make stupid decisions, even ones that would be dangerous to themselves.
We know this is the case because fast food isn’t illegal - it’s just that people (in this thread) are too stupid to see the contradictions in their own logic. Seatbelts are just a really oddly specific example of people choosing to police other people’s stupid decisions, for some reason.
I don’t think I could have worded in a more infantilizing manner if I tried, so thanks for proving my point I guess?
There are other ways to incentivize this behavior that doesn’t involve becoming an infantilizing nanny state. Significantly higher insurance premiums for people who choose not to buckle up, for example.
Cigarettes are another great example - they’re not illegal, but the government gives people financial incentives not to use them in the form of sin taxes.
There are many ways to disincentivize stupid behavior while still respecting the right of people to make those stupid choices.
cigarettes should absolutely be illegal, as they infringe on other people’s rights.
fast food is a ridiculous comparison. by the same logic shooting people should be legal because coughing in public isn’t illegal, since both are “unhealthy” for people around you.
and again, accidents aren’t personal. they involve others.
Yikes, I think with you having this many bad takes in such a short span, we’re probably not going to reach a place where we see eye to eye on this.