I dunno’ about OP, but quite a few things become “problematic” purely by association with dinguses. Sure, the sigma workaholic crap is problematic by itself, but the new Joker movie (NOT the sequel) _ was_ actually a good movie. It was all the weirdos who turned him in to some idol that made it cringe. (kinda’ like in the movie, even though the character himself enjoyed the recognition)
Personally, I tend to really like flawed characters or tragic back stories and whatnot, and he had both. They could have had a really awesome sequel to show why going down the path of idolatry would be a terrible one, but nooo they had to do a weird “musical” where it turns out he’s not even the joker. Too bad everyone else had to ruin it, even the creators, so I can kinda’ relate to things getting ruined by external forces.
Kinda’ like the US getting fucked by Trump despite every effort to get everyone I know to vote otherwise… Or how people like Johny Somali are giving Americans an even worse reputation as tourists. Some things that are supposed to be good really do simply get ruined by others, because too many people are judgemental guilt-by-association assholes.
Like did you evolve your entire personality around the disturbing characters? Or did you watch them a couple times, quote a few lines here and there?
There is a line and if you are worried people don’t like you anymore because of these movies you probably crossed into the former. The movies are not problematic, but unfortunately the way some people get into them is.
To emphasize: This is not automatically your fault because you enjoyed watching a show.
Media is full of things like this and there a few people that take fandom too far. They are characters and we are intended to hate the characters. Should we feel empathy as we watch their journey? Yes but empathy shouldn’t forgive the crimes they commit. We can feel a connection to their pain but take the lesson and instead of idolize, try to do better.
The workaholic sigma grindset BS is totally problematic, and definitely hints at the wrong kind of Joker idolization, though personally, I like a good warning of bad choices type character. The Joker could’ve been that if the sequel didn’t crap all over the very notion.
It’s also why I (used to) like Rick from Rick and Morty. He’s a terrible, miserable person, despite being capable of almost literally anything. He’s a great warning that happiness doesn’t come from things or power, but personal choices and outlook.
Why are you so in to problematic things?
He listed the highly inappropriate and unpopular movies that nobody ever heard of Full Metal Jacket and Fight Club.
I think someone spends too much time reading posts on the internet.
edit: i was right, yep, menslib subreddit reader.
Oooh fight club? So edgy. That’s that indie flick with complete unknowns Brad Pitt and Edward Norton.
I dunno’ about OP, but quite a few things become “problematic” purely by association with dinguses. Sure, the sigma workaholic crap is problematic by itself, but the new Joker movie (NOT the sequel) _ was_ actually a good movie. It was all the weirdos who turned him in to some idol that made it cringe. (kinda’ like in the movie, even though the character himself enjoyed the recognition)
Personally, I tend to really like flawed characters or tragic back stories and whatnot, and he had both. They could have had a really awesome sequel to show why going down the path of idolatry would be a terrible one, but nooo they had to do a weird “musical” where it turns out he’s not even the joker. Too bad everyone else had to ruin it, even the creators, so I can kinda’ relate to things getting ruined by external forces.
Kinda’ like the US getting fucked by Trump despite every effort to get everyone I know to vote otherwise… Or how people like Johny Somali are giving Americans an even worse reputation as tourists. Some things that are supposed to be good really do simply get ruined by others, because too many people are judgemental guilt-by-association assholes.
Because other people decided they were problematic after I got into them
Like did you evolve your entire personality around the disturbing characters? Or did you watch them a couple times, quote a few lines here and there?
There is a line and if you are worried people don’t like you anymore because of these movies you probably crossed into the former. The movies are not problematic, but unfortunately the way some people get into them is.
To emphasize: This is not automatically your fault because you enjoyed watching a show.
Media is full of things like this and there a few people that take fandom too far. They are characters and we are intended to hate the characters. Should we feel empathy as we watch their journey? Yes but empathy shouldn’t forgive the crimes they commit. We can feel a connection to their pain but take the lesson and instead of idolize, try to do better.
The workaholic sigma grindset BS is totally problematic, and definitely hints at the wrong kind of Joker idolization, though personally, I like a good warning of bad choices type character. The Joker could’ve been that if the sequel didn’t crap all over the very notion.
It’s also why I (used to) like Rick from Rick and Morty. He’s a terrible, miserable person, despite being capable of almost literally anything. He’s a great warning that happiness doesn’t come from things or power, but personal choices and outlook.