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      You know a guy who first saw the new fangled automobiles once said ‘That’s all well and good, but where do you attach the horse?’

      Sure, but this is not a positive argument for your position. This does not mean that everything with doubters is, in fact, good and misunderstood.

      Tickets as NFTs are a great idea because it absolutely prevents overbooking. Did you ever even consider that? Can’t mint more NFTs than the plane has seats

      You can prevent overbooking without blockchain/NFTs. Airlines overbook because they want to, and presumably they would still want to do so if they adopted NFT tickets. There is nothing about using blockchain that would prevent this, they would just mint more NFTs than there are seats for each flight with the hope/expectation that a few ticket holders would not show up.

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          So now you’re just going to discount the time I spent setting you up several use cases?

          I didn’t thoughtlessly discount anything, I’m just saying that while “some people didn’t see how cars could be useful” is true, it does not mean that everything that has doubters is actually a misunderstood wonder. Plenty of things with fervent true believers that have been supposed to change everything were, in fact, duds.

          And the reason for their overbooking, maximum profit, would be achieved seamlessly with a blockchain based ticketing system as there is no human input lag that causes double booking

          Human input lag is not generally the cause of overbooking. The overbooking is intentional. NFTs have no unique ability to prevent it. This is not a tech problem, and so it cannot be solved by tech. I’m open to the possibility that airline tickets are just a bad example, of course, and it wasn’t even an example you presented.

          You keep arguing that there are other ways of doing the things that the programatic nature of NFT contracts offer but NONE of them provide it all in one ridiculously transparent, unfalsifiable open source way that can be literally implemented on every platform

          This is all rather vague. The benefits are not obvious, so you need to be more specific.

          That’s why I used the car and the horse example, you are the one saying: “Yes we already have horses already, why do we need a car? And how would a horse even USE a car you silly billy?”

          You might be the one who is saying “the hyperloop will change travel forever!” Everything you’re writing seems like vague motivated reasoning presupposing that NFTs are the solution to problems that you don’t even seem to understand.

          The really sad thing is I’m waiting for a moment of realization from you that it is blatantly clear you are incapable of achieving. Pretending to be open minded is intellectually dishonest

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      interesting, around here we do it with numbered seats. if you give each seat a specific number turns out you can match that with numbered tickets. somehow airlines don’t make tickets with numbers that don’t match with any seats. insane tech.

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          way to miss the point. literally everyone knows that they overbook. that’s not because they’re not using nfts. it’s because they want to overbook. you said nfts would prevent overbooking. I say you can just prevent overbooking by not overbooking. it has nothing to do with nfts.

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              if you want to do it you can do it without nfts. clearly the airlines don’t deem it worth the effort. there’s no reason why you can’t make a system that easily transfers ownership. this is trying to find a problem for a solution.

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                It’s a bit chicken and egg. One of the reasons airlines overbook is because there is no efficient secondary market.

                But overbooking is seen as a profit center (I.e. consumers lose out) so only low cost airlines looking to provide consumer value would have any interest in NFT tickets.

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                  They could set up an efficient secondary market if they wanted to, without NFTs.

                  But they do not want to, so they will never use NFTs to do so either.

                  Aiports overbook because there are always passengers that do not show up and they want to make sure their planes are fully booked.

                  Those late/missing passengers arent going to sell their ticket to other passengers. So NFTs would literally solve nothing

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                    They could set up an efficient secondary market if they wanted to, without NFTs.

                    They could, but NFTs are a cheaper, more secure way of transacting.

                    Aiports overbook because there are always passengers that do not show up and they want to make sure their planes are fully booked.

                    That doesn’t have to be how they work.

                    Those late/missing passengers arent going to sell their ticket to other passengers.

                    What? They would love to.