Ignoring that there are a ton of people in the Donbass region that will never forgive Kiev for murdering them over the last decade in a bloody civil war
Oh yeah. Just completely unverifiable claims of indiscriminate shelling by Ukraine after Russia invaded Donbass and Crimea.
Also my bad, I was in another discussion and got mixed up. People tend to pile on you in .ml when you don’t toe the party line.
But, I did mean what I said about the discussion.
I think we’ll have to disagree to disagree. (Except for the parts where I completely agree with you)
To bring it back to the original point:
Personally knowing Ukrainians who are currently defending their homes from Russian invasion, I think I will never forgive Russia for what they’ve done and the innocent people they’ve killed. Just like I would never forgive the US, or Israel or any country that commits similar atrocities. Putin ultimately bears responsible for this.
I appreciate the thoughtful responses you gave to everything though and it gave me reason to think through my own convictions too (even if they remain unchanged).
Oh so you are actually a tankie by definition haha. Ok I guess this post makes more sense now.
I think it’s fair for me to assume that you’re just going to call me a brainwashed liberal for not agreeing with your narrative on the revolution. So, respectfully, discussing that probably isn’t going to be very productive for us.
But I do think you are misrepresenting the idea of authoritarianism. You are correct that at some level authority is applied in every society, but where that authority is derived from is the distinguishing characteristic.
In a democratic system, authority is derived from the will of the people through elections and voting. Unions, the original soviets and many communist structures are inherently democratic. However In a traditionally “authoritarian” system, authority is usually derived from the threat of violence.
While the threat of violence exists in a democratic system, there is a path to peaceful reform and resolution of conflict. In an authoritarian system, change is usually only achieved through violence.
Tankie does have a specific meaning though. Authoritarian communists. It was a term used to describe communists in western countries who supported the human rights abuses of the Soviet Union. Specifically when the Soviet army invaded Hungary to suppress the 1956 democratic revolution.
It’s not a specific pejorative against all communists. I don’t think the type of people who say “commie, pinko or red” actually use it at all.
It’s also much bigger than it was back in the day.
Even a fraction of a percent of people using decentralized services is probably bigger than the early web ever was.
And no regional pricing.