“Welcoming huddled masses” is no longer US policy. Statue of Liberty is “woke propaganda”, and US should now welcome getting rid of it. No horribly inappropriate/misplaced Ukraine warmongering justification needed.
Hasn’t been since before ww2
The Chinese Exclusion Act actually predates that poem being added to the statue. So, status is quo.
They can buy it from us
Two dosen eggs, handdriven air delivery. okay?
Maybe trade it for all of Canada
We’re not interested.
You are just asking for tariffs then
Give up your sovereignty or else!
(This is a joke if you didn’t realize)
This is pretty funny tbh.
Until they replace it with a Trump statue
wtf I love the French now.
I love to hate on the French but in reality they are far more based than other European powers.
Let’s not forget the Napoleonic code
I mean, they’re the country we probably owe the most to.
Love you too bro. Now riot
I’m Canadian, I hope they do…
Not just yet… we’re waiting for checks notes the government to individually wrong every last one of us directly while not hurting our enemies in any way
I mean not me, My pitchfork is fresh, but I’m not going out until there’s a crowd :) Murderbots will be hunting me down in the street.
My real worry is that instead of calling on the military to quell violence, they’ll call the military industrial complex who will send in the murder drones.
My real worry is that instead of calling on the military to quell violence, they’ll call the military industrial complex who will send in the murder drones.
Some programming wizard needs to secretly program empathy into these
secretly program
I fear Asimov’s three rules are not going to make it into the GOP Murderbots.
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welcome to Lemmy btw :)
Oh hey, look at the meme I made and posted 6 years ago on Reddit, the last time this xenophobic moron was in office. It’s almost like we could have predicted this shit.
But no, I was ‘hyperbolic’ and ‘alarmist’ at the time.
(Sorry for the Reddit link, it was this:)
Title: I’m sure Macron would be very happy to work out travel arrangements.
Thought that this was a joke originally.
He is not wrong.
We should. You should demand we do. Am American, and I fully support this.
What’s the opposite of eating the onion? I saw this elsewhere this morning and though haha, that’s obviously satire.
Throwing up an onion
I think we should if they pay us for the shipping charges in French-made guillotines. We need a lot of those in the US right now.
has the us ever truly stood for the values the statue is said to represent?
My family came to the US via Ellis Island as poor Jewish immigrants escaping pogroms of Eastern Europe.
Yes, the US once was a land of opportunity that did help the lives of many poor & oppressed families.
They slammed the door shut shortly before ww2. So the statue had meaning for like 30-40 good years.
Depends on what you think it represents.
It’s traditionally a symbol of opportunity, or new start style liberty.
America has, for a long time, been a place of hope or opportunity for immigrants. Not necessarily welcome, kindness, or prosperity, but hope.
With the visibly growing xenophobia this has tragically waned, but even still we have some of the highest immigration rates in the world.
The poem at the base of the statue, The New Colossus, makes its meaning pretty clear.
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”The US never lived up to the promise the statue made.
Meh, she wasn’t actually made for us. The artist that made her was commissioned by the Sultan of The Ottoman Empire, and he paid up front, so the artist got to work in the mid 1800s. The Sultan wanted her standing at the entrance to the Suez Canal, which was due to open soon. That’s why she’s Egyptian/ Middle Eastern. It also explains her crown. She’s a light bearer. She was supposed to signify the knowledge and wealth that flowed from the Ottoman Empire to Europe and Asia. She originally carried a torch and a bouquet of spices and herbs.
Unfortunately for the Sultan, he died before the artist, or the canal, was completed. When the artist contacted the new Sultan to let him know he was ready to construct her, the new Sultan told him to go ahead and melt her down for all he cared. He graciously said that the artist didn’t owe him any money back, and that he was certain that the artist did good work, but he believed that statues were graven images, and therefore they no longer wanted the statue.
Fast forward to 1871.
The artist has a meeting with The French Ambassador to America, The President of the French-American Friendship Society, and himself. Turns out the US centennial is coming up. The ambassador suggested that the artist remove the bouquet, and replace it with a book that contains the most American sounding thing ever, and they’ll never notice she isn’t European. So the ambassador and president gathered up the funding, and sent the newly dubbed “Lady Liberty,” from the Parisian warehouse she had been gathering dust in, to New York in time to be fully erected by July 4, 1876.
This is one of my new favourite bits of totally unnecessary information, thank you.
Someone else replied to say it was incorrect.
Okay, thanks for letting me know!
I had searched up the Egypt Carrying the Light to Asia which notes that the statue was based off a design that was meant to be at the Suez canal and the concept was reused as the statue of Liberty after being declined, which I still find pretty interesting. I guess the original commenter added a bunch of the other stuff based on the misinformation that the other commenter pointed out.
That date is completely wrong and the rest of this comment is full of inconsistency anyway. The root of this claim is only traceable to a fraudulent historian known for pro-islamic hate, propaganda, and fictitious historical Turkish/Ottoman revisionism, named Mustafa Armagan. Yes, the sculptor wanted to make a statue for the Suez Canal, but the directors involved declined. There is no evidence the Ottomans paid for it, that the statue was crafted before the plan to give it to the US, that the Ottomans had enough say in the Canal’s decoration when the project was conceived and constructed during a more autonomous Egyptian rule with heavy French influence, or that anything was modified in physical form from an Egyptian figure. The only thing thing confirmed to exist in 1876 was the torch arm which didn’t even arrive until late 1876. The statue was not fully erected until 1886. The design was reconfigured, not some “statue sitting in a Parisian warehouse” because the designer wanted to make it, not the Ottomans.
It’s really not surprising that a generic semi-European woman would have some traits maybe closer to Mediterranean than French because it was an homage to the Colossus of Rhodes.
Give it back to you? How about you pay repairations to Haiti or Algeria or any of your other former colonies before you act like you’re worthy of the Mother of Exiles?
Yeah, give it to Russia or China who have never used military expansion for their own self serving purposes.
Oh fuck off.
Did France not forever debilitate Haiti’s economy by enslaving it and then requiring Haiti to compensate France for the monetary loss of its liberation before being willing to recognize it as a legitimate country?
Shut up yankee.
Death to US.
The statue should be given to a nation that deserves it, not some colonial power.
This should be the new “OK boomer”
how fucking dare you come into this comment section with a logical retort!
how fucking dare you!
whelp, Reddit cancer is here folks. time to gtfo.
Your post is exactly the type of cancer that you are referring to, whether or not you have the ability to understand it.
just so you realize, my comment was satirical and the fact that you read it literally, reported it, and a mod removed it is exactly what I was critiquing.
Nice one, dig that hole deeper! You can do it!
FYI I’ve never reported any post, and yours is by no means significant enough for that record to change.
Then it obviously wasn’t that great of a critique if it was that badly misinterpreted.
obviously.
that was sarcasm by the way. just want to make sure you know that I’m being obtuse enough so that you and everyone else knows that it was indeed not obvious.
perhaps if you read deeper than surface level I wouldn’t have to sound like a pompous arrogant ass.
but don’t worry, I’ll humble myself to speak to you on your terms.
Take a fucking breath.
I don’t understand what you mean? I am breathing.
I would be dead if I wasn’t.
Someone’s been keeping tabs on the price of copper.
At today’s market price that’d be $305,000. Not as much as I was expecting. Google says there’s approximately 62,000LBS of copper in the statue.
That’s only according to the National Parks Service. Others say potentially as much as 200,000 lbs, or about $1 million USD worth
Source: https://copper.org/consumers/arts/2008/february/Statue_of_Liberty.php
It’s hard to say for sure since it was made so long ago, was restored in the 80s, and is big as hell, haha
That’s rich coming from a party which saved the (partially) far right government from dissolution.
There’s a big difference from the far right and full blown nazis
Yeah, that difference is about 8 years.
