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And yet on my phone I wish websites would stop hawking the native app and just let me use the site. In a way I suppose this is the same complaint since the native apps are often a web wrapper with telemetry.
no but actually I can’t stand wasting my storage on telemetry bloated bullshit. Let me use the website or I’m noy buying your garbage
Same. Literally had two very similar options for a flight last week and it was between Delta and American. Delta made it almost impossible to book last time if I didnt download their app. So the choice was simple, American got my money.
Boomer Humor DoomergodI used to put the forms inside of invisible tables, as was the style at the time.
FiniteBanjoNormally these are meant to be ironic but I kind of vibe with this one.
N.E.P.T.RI would prefer webapps to native if there was a protocol to fully load the page and disable network traffic for apps that work fully offline. It is more secure to run an app in the browser because off the layers of isolation in modern browsers. Native apps can access all sorts of information and system resources, which could be used to compromise the host OS.
There’s a standard API for offline webapps: ServiceWorker https://dev.to/taiwofamaks/build-an-offline-first-web-app-with-service-workers-2ml7
I wonder why it’s not used more. Maybe not intuitive enough, or maybe JS framework don’t support this.
This actually kinda exists, but appears to be implemented in Chrome on Windows only (sigh), and I’m not sure anyone uses it:
Fuckit, if anything more fancy than HTML + CGI is needed, there’s always VRML.
….holy shit, it just dawned on me.. VRML + CGI? Today’s PCs should have no issue rendering it, and server-side should be the same as any other CGI page. I gotta do some experimenting with this.
UPDATE: I actually did some research into this, and the possibilities are actually quite extensive. In theory it should be possible to make an extremely basic multiplayer FPS game.
My favorite part is how this meme itself consists entirely of plain text plus a little styling.
You want graphical interfaces? We already have a solution for it and it’s called ncurses!
AgeslyTo be fair web is still more cross-platform UI than anything else while Apple and Google try to distance their compatibility even further.
Is flutter still a thing?
It is, but afaik it will need a major rework due to iOS new design system
pimento64No, seriously. Web sucks for GUI. Every basic UI framework does a better job at accessibility, not to talk about performance or weird bugs because it expects Chromium to simulate a GUI on a Document Object Model, graceful degradation be damned. And buttons, forms, is something you don’t need JS for. You do a poor job if you do.
For a bit more complex form validation (ofc only for user convenience and not security), you need js.
Yeah but you can hack some shit together in jQuery real easy like
So you could in Delphi’s VCL and that compiled to every platform too. And that in the early 90s.
dreadbeefthe web is the desktop environment everyone uses
if you want it to go away, everyone who is working on it and making it work right now disagrees with you
everything you said goes away with canvas and video games.
“durrrr video gaimes no belongy on interwebzzzz bcuz the DOM is for word documents onlyyyyyyyyy steve ballmer said sooooo” – an idiotic luddite
wasm runtimes are the next app platform or will inspire it
The_Decryptorif you want it to go away, everyone who is working on it and making it work right now disagrees with you
I’m sure most people wouldn’t like losing their jobs.
Yeah if wars were somehow abolished for good, a LOT of people working in arms manufacturing would be pissed.
itch.io is a sin against the web. Those idiotic people… enjoying non document based web applications… they are destroying the internet!
The godot foundation is a destructive force and must be ended before all of the web as we know it has capitulated to…. javascript!!!!!!!!!
I tried to get on board with this one, but “cross platform apps” made me throw up in my mouth a little. The unholy things we did back then are best left forgotten in their shallow binary graves.
Honestly images were a step too far. And bring back the blink tag.
I would prefer webapps to native if there was a protocol to fully load the page and disable network traffic for apps that work fully offline.
Vanishingly few apps work fully offline and they tend to be the ones that don’t send a buttload of requests in the first place.
In my experience.
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Absolutely not unless it’s as sandboxed as the web (which even the web isn’t sandboxes that well).
Working with software has only made me not trust software that’s not open source.
Your word in the Linux communities’ hardliners ears. The consistent rejection of isolation concepts seen in Flatpak or Snap by some people go completely beyond me.
We can’t afford the ram to run it anyway.
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PTSD from early 2000s
Telnet IS TCP. “Telnet wrapped in a thin layer of XOR” might fit better?
I’m guessing that was supposed to be “secured by a thin layer of TLS”…
Telnet Layer Security
Thats what I thought as well, but TLS as a term felt a bit too technical for the meme format, which is why I suggested XOR.
Ah, I think, I know what you mean, that the format is supposed to be written with foolish oversimplifications that are borderline incorrect, whereas “secured by TLS” just sounds like a normal statement from an expert…
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